Health & Wellness

Six Pharmaceutical Drugs That Immediately Destroy Your Health

  • jenbean12

    Fluorquinolone antibiotics should’ve also been added to this list.

    • Emily Cummins

      I was given a Fluorqui… ointment for psoriasis and it caused a migraine, even though I just tried a bit on spot on my leg. The doctor didn’t believe me.

      • Chris Marcelle

        I know of a wonderful product for psoriasis, it has multiple benefits including wrinkle reduction! Works on the inside out.

        • Emily Cummins

          I have a prescription for Betamethasone Dipropionate, but I have not used if for a long time. Last year some friends told me about using Absorbine [at the pet store in the horse liniment section] for leg cramps. I put it on my legs before I go to bed at night. I realized that I didn’t have any Psoriasis spots on my legs any longer. I am not sure if the Absorbine took care of it or the combination of being in the pool 3x + a week for arthritis swim class.

          • Pearle Lacher

            cetaphil…and aquaflour are OTCounters and have many many beneftis..without side effect…so try those as a start//

          • Debbie Lamont

            Most likely the pool chlorine did the trick . My son had skin problems from birth .He would scratch until he bled .his feet would crack until he could barely walk. Allergists and dermatologists and family doc prescribed many things .some very expensive creams and steroids.Nothing really helped until we got a pool.In the off months I would put a tablespoon of bleach in his bath water. He finally had normal healthy skin .

          • Emily Cummins

            I remember asking the doctor about the pool when he first told me what it was. He said that I could keep going to the pool 🙂 I have had some flare ups, but I think it was stress that I was going through at those times – that’s life. It’s amazing what an inexpensive household product can do vs expensive [chemical] prescriptions.

        • Kathy Jones

          Can you share? I have a friend with psoriasis….She lives in Scotland and has been suffering for years.

          • Mike Cannon

            Kathy Jones, I read a book on psoriasis years ago written by a man who cured his own psoriasis. Bottom line……he took 200 milligrams of zinc every day and it cleared up his skin. So it might be worth a try for your friend.

          • Myla McLoughlin

            Scroll down. Chris has posted her suggestion.

          • Chris Marcelle

            Unfortunately we are not in Scotland right now. I do know that psoriasis responds to a good colon cleanse, probiotics, and
            Ceramides
            Vitamin C
            Bamboo extract
            Pomegranate
            Green tea and grapeseed extracts
            14 antioxidant phytonutrient fruits(pomegranate, jabuticaba, açaí, cranberry, mangosteen, acerola, amla, goji, maqui, strawberry, schisandra, apple, pear, grape)

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          • Alfa Yuson

            Friend you can try Cellsentials. It helped my friends who suffered psoriasis for 8 years and now they are free from the disease.

          • Emily Cummins

            Does she have access to a swimming pool? The chlorine seems to have helped me a lot! and maybe the addition of the Absorbine that I use on my legs for leg cramps.

          • Marilyn Davidson

            Leg cramps are usually a sign you need a magnesium supplement.

          • Emily Cummins

            Thanks ….I get enough Magnesium through food and supplements. The leg cramp issues started when I took a statin prescription for 4 years, for cholesterol many years ago. Shortly after I changed to an herbal, I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. I was later told that the leg cramping problems are part of Fibro. I also put the Absorbine on my legs about 30 minutes before I go in the pool, whether I am in for the arthritis class or teaching [Adult Beginners]. The water time is the only physical activity I can do. Due to a back injury many years ago walking is out of the question as well as machines like the elliptical that I have. My great grand daughter put more miles on it than I have [my knees like to seize on me]. I don’t even bend over to pull weeds in my flower beds – so welcome to my colorful jungles 🙂

          • Doni Hing

            Leg cramps can be caused by a low level of Potassium. I take Potassium supplements. The moment I stop, the leg and food cramps come back.

          • jenbean12

            Statins deplete CoQ10/Ubiquinol from the body and is what causes the leg pain and cramping. A deficiency can also cause heart problems.
            High cholesterol is caused from inflammation in the body, work on getting rid of/lowering inflammation, Turmeric, omega 3 fish oil, Astaxanthin are just a few good supplements for helping inflammation.

        • Francesca Di Vita Jensen

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          • Chris Marcelle

            Pretty cool stuff. check this out! actnow.shiftingretail.com

      • Alfa Yuson

        you try Cellsentials. I have a lot of friends who have psoriasis for 8 years and by taking the products it helped them for a couple of months.

    • Barbara_Anello

      Should be #1 on this List!

    • Barbara Halstead

      Yes.
      Was prescribed the antibiotic ‘Cipro’ off and on for two years.
      It caused damage to my tendons. They can never be repaired, and I am disabled as a result.

      • OkieTee

        My mother was prescribed Cipro for staph infection that she had following a surgery – grrr, dirty hospital! OU Medical Center OKC – which messed her up for a LONG time. She still has various problems, including tendons – carpal tunneling requiring surgery, but she still has problems after 2 or 3 years now!

        • origwwotp

          Thank you very much. My cardio was trying to talk me into a heart procedure there and you saved me the effort of looking it up. My mom got staph in a knee replacement at St. Anthony’s, they went back in two more times with their strategy at ‘fixing’ it. My cardio is at St Anthony’s but loves a particular surgeon at OU Med Ctr. Seems like the private hospital Mercy may be the only place worth using in the city.

          • OkieTee

            I wouldn’t take my dog to OU Medical Center!! After Mom’s incident, I found out that a LOT of people’s parents and family have died there from staph. It is scary!! To me, OU is a good place to go to die – or get killed! I’d stick with Mercy because I have heard no bad thing about them and we have had very fine experiences there (brother is battling Stage 4 cancer – and WINNING!) and Mom had a few incidents post-surgery that we would NOT go back to OU. Mom’s trouble started on 12-21-12 and she still has not recovered!

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        • Chris Marcelle

          MY husband makes his own colloidal silver which kills any virus (staph) and we take a wonderful liquid, collagen matrix that works on the tendons, etc. I had rotator cuff surgery on one arm, needed it on the other and with this product didn’t require surgery and i have full mobility with both arms.

      • Chris Marcelle

        I know of a wonderful product that can help repair tendons and cartilage
        i’ve been using for 4 years, helps my fibromylagia too

        • Donna Ross

          I have found the liquid BioCell works wonderful for your tendons, cartilage, joints, and helps with fibromyalgia. You can purchase (learn more) about this at Modere.com. If you key in promo code 058591 you will get a $10 discount on your 1st order.

          • Chris Marcelle

            i have been using lbc for 4 years now and would not be without it. my site has the studies to back it. http://www.ahealthandwellnessco.com MY (pain)discomfort level was a 13 when I started today it is a 3 mostly 1. (Just went through a hurricane and had a slip and fall, so discomfort is up) Both my husband and I have been using the product and can give you many testimonies. We have made this our life’s mission to share with the world the benefits of this 7 international and national patented product.

        • Myla McLoughlin

          Well it would be very nice/helpful if you could share the name of the product with us Chris.

      • Francis Andrews

        Same here, horrible pain my legs will never be the same.
        Iodine dye before that triggered autoimmune RA and Graves. Disabled.

      • Myla McLoughlin

        Yes, Ciprofloxacin. And the doctors and Big Pharma know it causes tendon problems up to causing the achilles tendon to snap apart.

      • Emily Cummins

        🙁

    • Myla McLoughlin

      Yes I agree Fluroquinolones (Ciloxin etc) etc are dangerous/fatal.

  • Jeanne Wright Perkin

    what about metforman?? the one for diabetes..heard it was horrid for you as well…

    • Maura

      metforman slowly robs you of b12/b’s and folate, quickly in some. then stops iron absorption then heart attack then its blamed on your diabetes…common first symptoms, restless leg, later when severe, hair loss…there is no recovery from neuro damage once b12 gets too low.Hardly worth a few points at best of blood sugar lowering, when blood sugar is not the problem, uptick in insulin is and metformin just very a weak symptom masker temp., not treatment. Hair loss used to be listed as a side effect of metformin until they removed it, ALL people taking metformin sadly, need sublingual b12 that doesn’t raise histamine levels.Health force products can do this too. Your pharmacist won’t know this because they only listen to the pharma mantra garbage

      • OkieTee

        Thank you. That’s good to know. I forget to take Metformin half the time and I take half a dose daily. I figure my body at age 60 and not a lot of activity is just SLOW. I do plan to spend the rest of my years making myself healthier and MOVING even if it’s just tapping my toe when I’m sitting. Naturally, I’m combating sugar, carbs, and drinking good water.

        • origwwotp

          be sure to only buy REAL food. it makes a huge difference to buy the ingredients and put the dish together. Invest in good freezer bags and freeze what you won’t eat in two days. it is worth it to avoid the MSG and high fructose corn syrup aka ‘natural sugar? or natural corn sugar?.’ just maddening to have to learn the new names they come up with to hide stuff people have figured out

  • António Rui Carvalho

    Wow, what an epiphany I just had!

  • David P Mccarron

    Far more people will die if they follow ‘Earth We Are One’ recommendations. Shameful!!

    • James B.

      “Far more people will die if they follow” your disinformation. “Shameful!!”

  • David P Mccarron

    Astounding that people fall for the things EWAO say!!!

    • Chloe Clark

      have heard these same things from other sources. never believe just ONE source.

      • David P Mccarron

        Even more important, make sure sources are reliable..peer reviewed, medical literature. Make sure the studies used to support claims are well designed, make sure they are not simply basing claims on observations and anecdotes as is being done here. 10 unreliable sources proves NOTHING. It is quality of data NOT quantity. The claims here are bogus. I have pointed this out to EWAO previously with other claims including pointing out clearly the flaws in the data they quoted and they continue this totally irresponsible behavior. Absolutely shameful. Even more frightening, people believe them. All of the treatments for the conditions described here carry risk. Taking one of these meds is all about risk vs benefits. If a prescription blood thinner prevents 10 strokes while causing 1 internal bleed (notice how EWAO does NOT provide risk-benefit assessment), what are you going to do? Did you notice EWAO doesn’t mention there are over 30,000 annual visits to emergency departments for side effects, some life threatening, of herbal/natural remedies/supplements? That number is on the rise. Are you aware what of data (randomized, controlled trials and meta-analyses) IS reliable in proving benefit from natural remedies? Are you aware that nearly 100% of studies on benefit of natural remedies are not one of these two types? The data comes from flawed studies. Talk to a clinical researcher if you want to know whether or not data is reliable.

        • willietrohut

          And where did you get your information about herbal/natural remedies/supplements? And who are you to tell anybody they are not qualified to draw conclusions of their own, when mankind used all of those types of remedies long before modern chemistry labs came along concocting things to more or less copy those previously natural remedies, only the natural are better than the lab concoctions. I take zero pharmaceuticals. I have not had a cold or the flu for so long it’s laughable to think of people telling me flu vaccines are good. I make sure to keep up the vitamins and minerals my body needs to have a superior immune system that fights these things off, and most of it is from the kind of foods I eat since otc vitamins are virtually worthless. Everyone I know (and there are a lot) that gets flu vaccines/pneumonia vaccines/etc, gets sick several times a year. I don’t. Would you care to explain why that happens? Statins also should be on this list as causing several dangerous physical issues, and cholesterol isn’t the primary reason people have heart disease. Inflammation is the primary reason, but people keep eating modern day foods that cause severe inflammation in the body, and then their doctors put them on statins. Everyone I know who takes statins also have musculo-skeletal pain and deterioration as well as nervous system degeneration. But they keep pushing it on people. Pharmaceutical companies = modern day PUSHERS. They even offer free drugs, if you need it, in the beginning to get you hooked on them, and then they have you for life, just like old day pushers on the street. People who put so much stock in pharmaceuticals rather than pushing a healthy lifestyle as the BEST option to heal your body are as stupid as they think naturalists are. I prefer the advise of Hippocrates, the father of medicine, who said “let food by thy medicine, let medicine by thy food”. Oldie but goodie. He knew back then what the truth was.

          • Richard

            “Drawing conclusions on your own” is often a bad idea, especially when dealing with health issues — it turns back the clock hundreds of years, when people on average died at the age of 50, after a life full of discomfort, disease and parasites, and when one in every five children didn’t make it into adulthood.
            Also, most ‘natural remedies’ are useless; the fact that some have been in use for thousands of years says absolutely nothing. As an example, please look up aristolochia or birthwort. It has been in use since the days of ancient Greece, and it is still widely used in oriental herbal ‘medicine’. We now know that this plant has no beneficial effects whatsoever, and, even worse, it causes kidney cancer. It is almost certainly responsible for Taiwan having the highest rate of kidney cancer worldwide.
            Ayurvedic ‘medicine’ is another example — any system that uses substances such as lead, arsenic and mercury as medicines (after boiling in bullshit — yes, literally), is not to be trusted at all, never mind that it has been in use thousands of years. Recent analysis of ayurvedic ‘herbs’ sold in the US via the Internet showed that over 20% contained toxic amounts of the aforementioned heavy metals, alongside other harmful plant ingredients.
            And your anecdote that those who take flu shots get sick far more often than those who don’t, is probably a product of a biased observation. I know quite a few people who get their annual flu shot, no problem at all. Yes, some DO get sick rather more often than your average Joe or Jane — but the causality here is exactly the other way round: these people already have a frail health due to old age, and that is exactly why they get their flu shots, as getting full-blown flu could have life-threatening consequences for them.

          • Vanessa Guyette

            I also believe this article is reckless and has no basis to support the conclusions made. I too believe a healthy diet and exercise plus not smoking or drinking to excess would benefit the majority and though we all know that to be true, there is still no real move by most to follow those principles. I am guilty of not always getting the nutrition and activity that would benefit me. It’s been made so easy in our country to stop by the restaurants, especially fast food, that contributes to our poor health to grab a quick meal. We no longer know what a normal portion looks like. All medication can be toxic, including supplements and “natural” products. Our physicians must balance the need versus the side effects and we should be an active part of our healthcare and question the doctor regarding anything medication we put in our body. There is a fairly large number of people that have gone so far in the other direction regarding modern medicine that they cease to listen to information that may disagree with their beliefs. The dogma is so strong that common sense goes out the window. Anyone should be able to see that some medication that has been introduced has resulted in a longer life span and fewer life threatening diseases. Some previously deadly diseases that routinely took lives at a young age have even been eradicated. There was no medication for severe hypertension, diabetes, infections and many communicable diseases. We have a much longer life span and much of that has been a result of the advent of certain medications, vaccinations and life saving techniques. No medication should be given without thought but to make invalid claims and write stories based on no clear cut data and only supported by those who lack the medical education to make these claims is folly. It may even cost lives when some are convinced that no medication is helpful and that medication and vaccinations are only given to line the pockets of drug companies or doctors. I disagree with commercials advertising prescription medication and there are some things that need more oversight and to be changed but to dismiss the good is reckless.

          • David P Mccarron

            Richard-
            There are thousands upon thousands of subjects I know nothing about about but this is not one of them. I have been in healthcare/public health/clinical research for 27 years. I am no better than anyone, I just have a different skill set and the comments I made are based on my area of expertise.
            Yes…vascular disease is an inflammatory process. Did you know that statins have anti-inflammatory properties? Herein lies the problem, you have heard that vascular disease is an inflammatory process and you have heard statins lower cholesterol. As a non-medical professional which I suspect describes you (not a criticism, it is what it is), you conclude statins must not work. Statins reduce risk of stroke and heart attack even if they don’t lower cholesterol, thus, the discovery 20 plus years ago that they have anti-inflammatory properties. You proved my point about people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions.

          • Queda Crutchfield

            Sorry. I don’t buy your “expertise,” for the most part. Just follow the money trail. Pharmaceutical companies cannot make any money on a natural substance — thus they manipulate studies to show these natural remedies do not work. Then they want us to believe them. Sorry, but I don’t. I do not trust the medical community to make the best decisions for me and my family. The medical doctors do not receive any training in the nutrition/natural remedy side of things, so they do not know anything about it unless they have done some studying independently (and there are some that have!!). If vascular disease is an inflammatory process, then getting rid of the inflammation in your body will get rid of it. That just makes sense. Putting a foreign substance (chemical medication) is NOT a cure, just a way to control symptoms. I would rather get rid of the underlying cause. What we put in our mouths definitely affects our physical and emotional well being. A medical physician has his place, but frankly, the more you can stay out of the M.D.’s office, the better off you will be. I do not have a deficiency of any of these medications, but I may have a deficiency in certain nutrients. Therefore, putting a chemical medication in my body will NOT help the underlying situation.

          • David P Mccarron

            Don’t forget about the ‘natural remedy’/supplement industry money trail. $30 billion dollars spent by Americans on natural remedies/herbal supplements 99.9% of no proven benefit even when you use the data supplied by that industry…any clinical researcher can point out flaws. Don’t forget about the greater than 30,000 and climbing visit to emergency departments for people having side effects from natural remedies. I am not saying everyone needs to be on a prescription pharmaceutical but it is indisputable that when used properly, quality of life can be improved and, in some cases, length of one’s life lengthened.

          • RonBell Skyhut

            How about the millions of emergency department visits (EDs) yearly due to pharmaceuticals? – https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications

          • Francis Andrews

            THink we have a big pharma troll here?

          • Queda Crutchfield

            According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), 100,000
            Americans die from reactions to prescription drugs each year, making
            this the fourth leading cause of death in the U.S. So . . . . tell me which is more dangerous — medications from a physician or natural supplements? I will take my chances with the natural supplements and good nutrition any day. It has worked well for me for many years!

          • David P Mccarron

            Just like in accounting, you can’t only look at the debit column without looking at the credit column. That 100,000 is FAR, FAR, FAR exceeded by number of deaths prevented, complications of disease processes prevented like heart attacks, strokes…etc. You are proving a point. Some who describe benefits of alternative therapies talk ONLY about those who responded and don’t mention those who didn’t. Do you see what you did? You looked at number of alleged deaths from prescription meds. You failed to compare to number of lives saved, strokes, heart attacks prevented…etc. You selectively pointed out the bad while ignoring the good. It doesn’t work that way.

          • James B.

            First, the 100,000 people account is likely a minimal figure and the real count is much higher (read the book “Death By Medicine” by Dr. Carolyn Dean, etc). Secondly, your claim that this figure is “FAR, FAR, FAR exceeded by number of deaths prevented, complications of disease processes prevented like heart attacks, strokes…etc.” is based on your erroneous notion about the value of studies in the medical literature (as I had pointed out to you in my 1st comment). So your statement is bogus, disinformation.

            As I said in my 1st comment about you… what’s really “absolutely shameful” is that you’re convinced that you firmly know what’s going on when you really don’t. Yet, out of your pompous sense of superiority you dismiss people who are not “experts” (like you) in this field (“people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions”). So virtually every comment (=your “conclusions”) you make here on this site (and likely everywhere else) is based on your false premise about medical research and the orthodox medical business. Meaning, what you say is unreliable. Bogus. Hype. Disinformation.

            You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

            The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

            Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

          • David P Mccarron

            Do you know how many people die in auto accidents each year? Have you stopped driving because it is so dangerous to you?

          • David P Mccarron

            100,000 die annually. Did you know 119,000,000 Americans take a prescription drug annually? That means .0008 of those who take a prescription drug die. .0008%!!! Do you know how many things you do on a daily basis carry a greater risk of death? This is called perspective.

          • James B.

            The real important humane figure is not a “cold” statistical percentage but the magnitude of human damage inflicted, which does not just include deaths but also other serious injuries that number in the hundreds of thousands of people thanks to the criminal corporate medicine business. Since a medical system such as the allopathic establishment is one of the top leading causes of death (it’s not death by car accidents, that pales against the medical holocaust number) every rational person knows we’re dealing with a highly destructive inhumane medical system.

            You with your deceptive information want the public to believe it’s no big deal when the medical allopathy commits a medical genocide each and every year, going on for decades. ONLY an insane, totally ignorant, or intentionally criminal person would propagate such information.

            Allpaths swear to “first do no harm” notion yet the reality, their actual behavior, reveals their utter lie, amorality, and criminality. It’s with perfect reason that Dr. Gøtzsche called the conventional medical business a mob, just like others had said so decades earlier. But a highly criminal destructive enterprise isn’t going to eradicate itself, once a mob always a mob — until most people wake up to the truth.

            As I said in my 1st comment about you, and it’s worth repeating again and again to counter your relentless allopathic propaganda and for more readers to know… what’s really “absolutely shameful” is that you’re convinced that you firmly know what’s going on when you really don’t. Yet, out of your pompous sense of superiority you dismiss people who are not “experts” (like you) in this field (“people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions”). So virtually every comment (=your “conclusions”) you make here on this site (and likely everywhere else) is based on your false premise about medical research and the orthodox medical business. Meaning, what you say is unreliable. Bogus. Hype. Disinformation.

            You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

            The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

            Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

          • James B.

            In another comment you bragged that you have the right perspective. No, you don’t. The $30 billion dollar supplement industry pales against the 2+ Trillion dollar allopathic industry. Guess who has more power and financial clout to propagate their false propaganda and to crush competitors?

            The “30,000 and climbing visit to emergency departments for people having side effects from natural remedies” also pales against the hundreds of thousands of serious side effects from toxic “scientific” medical drugs (read the book “Death By Medicine” by Dr. Carolyn Dean, et al,) despite that about the same number of people take supplements and drugs in the US. It’s obvious WHO the real danger is to the public!

            As I said in my 1st comment about you… what’s really “absolutely shameful” is that you’re convinced that you firmly know what’s going on when you really don’t. Yet, out of your pompous sense of superiority you dismiss people who are not “experts” (like you) in this field (“people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions”). So virtually every comment (=your “conclusions”) you make here on this site (and likely everywhere else) is based on your false premise about medical research and the orthodox medical business. Meaning, what you say is unreliable. Bogus. Hype. Disinformation.

            You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

            The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

            Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

          • David P Mccarron

            You are correct about most MD not knowing much about herbal remedies/supplements. I took an interest in this area 20 years ago. The major problem is the data that those who recommend herbal remedies use to support their claims is not based on sound, very basic scientific principle. Any scientist INCLUDING those outside of the medical field can tell you that the data and its interpretation is bogus. It is the data that the herbal supplement industry presents that is bogus, not ‘manipulated’ data from Big Pharma. If Big Pharma didn’t exist, the supplement industry data would still be bogus.

          • Francis Andrews

            Not all supplements are bogus. I don’t understand how you can make that blanket statement. Don’t care what qualifies you. I have used many alternative treatments over the years, much less damage than Big Pharma drugs and have been helped many times. For instance, the medical community caused my migraines, a spinal and birth control was all it took. I suffered for years until I found a supplement that helped me greatly. Never had any help or relief from medical community. Actually the medical community damaged my health to the point that I am disabled and have been for years. There have been several instances where treatment was detrimental to my health and I have paid a huge price, yet no supplement I’ve taken has ever hurt me to that degee. Some may not have helped much, but at least I didn’t wind up with autoimmune disease from treatment.

          • James B.

            I’ve already pointed out in my 1st message to you that what you think the value of the medical literature is (“based on sound, very basic scientific principle”) is false. So it’s clear that it “is the data that” the allopathic industry/Big Pharma “presents that is bogus” which includes lots of manipulated data. “If the supplement industry didn’t exist, Big Pharma data would still be bogus” as they’ve been creating that type of bogus for decades (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”).

          • Tracy Bower Hince

            Agree with you 100%

          • John McPeters

            turmeric and ginger are better for you than statins. I have permanent damage from statins. had completely lost ability to walk, when I came off them.

          • David P Mccarron

            You represent an exception. If statins prevent 1000 heart attacks/strokes for every one person who has severe side effect like yourself, shouldn’t a person opt for the statin if high risk for heart attack/stroke. Herein lies the problem, people hear about a few bad outcomes with statins and don’t hear about the thousands who have heart attacks/strokes prevented annually and mistakenly assume statins bad for everyone. Please show me one randomized, controlled trial and/or meta-analysis showing benefit from ginger and/or turmeric. Herein lies another problem, people outside public health/healthcare/clinical research don’t understand the difference between the 6-7 ways to collect data in terms of ability of data to prove anything. The data on ginger and turmeric comes from highly flawed data. A lay person who doesn’t understand scientific principles such as study designs and the limitations of each is at high risk for being mislead by some who claim to be experts making bogus claims.

          • Pepper

            You are SO far off base here, David. I don’t care how many years of experience you say you have, I have close to 25 in the natural product industry. I have thousands of people who can and will testify how natural products work. Everything from homeopathy, to herbal, to supplementation, all without deadly, toxic side effects. Yes, there are many products out there in the natural world that are basically snake oil, but sticking with the remedies that have been used successfully for hundreds of generations is hardly flawed data. If you believe these products are making bogus claims, don’t use them, but stop using scare tactics to stop others from doing so.

          • Francis Andrews

            THank you for that. More than once the medical community has injured me, I am now elderly and still paying for what was done to me in my 50’s.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Oh, so you are selling something. I think you’re a fraud as using some natural products can kill you.

          • Queda Crutchfield

            You sound like a dyed-in-the-wool pharmaceutical rep. Pharmaceutical companies do not make money on natural substances, therefore, they will deny their effectiveness at any cost. They don’t care who they hurt, and they don’t care about the patients. They only care about making money. If it isn’t about the money, they would not be singing their current tune!!

          • David P Mccarron

            Lol!! And you think the $30billion a year natural remedy/supplement industry cares about people? Really?? Lol!!! Where there is that amount of $$$ to be made there will be scammers. I am not saying supplements don’t work, I am saying there is no good data to confirm that they work. You don’t have to believe me, it is what it is. Sorry. Peace! 🙂

          • James B.

            Lol!!! The $30 billion dollar supplement industry pales against the 2+ Trillion dollar allopathic industry. Guess which industry breeds the biggest scammers and has the biggest incentive to NOT care about people? Anyone can read the proof in Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime” – Dr. Gøtzsche called the conventional medical industry a mafia. When are you going to wake up, or be honest enough to face reality for the sake of the public?

            As I said in my 1st comment about you… what’s really “absolutely shameful” is that you’re convinced that you firmly know what’s going on when you really don’t. Yet, out of your pompous sense of superiority you dismiss people who are not “experts” (like you) in this field (“people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions”). So virtually every comment (=your “conclusions”) you make here on this site (and likely everywhere else) is based on your false premise about medical research and the orthodox medical business. Meaning, what you say is unreliable. Bogus. Hype. Disinformation.

            You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

            The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

            Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

          • James B.

            The real problem lies in the fact that you spread propaganda. As I said in another comment the real evidence has shown that statins have practically no, or only marginal, benefits and most of the “scientific” research in favor of cholesterol-lowering statins is flawed and fraudulent (eg, read Dr. Uffe Ravnskov’s work — http://www.ravnskov.nu/ ).

            As I said in my 1st comment about you… what’s really “absolutely shameful” is that you’re convinced that you firmly know what’s going on when you really don’t. Yet, out of your pompous sense of superiority you dismiss people who are not “experts” (like you) in this field (“people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions”). So virtually every comment (=your “conclusions”) you make here on this site (and likely everywhere else) is based on your false premise about medical research and the orthodox medical business. Meaning, what you say is unreliable. Bogus. Hype. Disinformation.

            You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

            The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

            Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

          • Francis Andrews

            I too had to stop taking them after severe muscle cramps.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Statins caused my severe leg cramps.

          • David P Mccarron

            I agree that proper diet, exercise critical to good health but pharmaceuticals play a role. People live longer than ever before. Diseases previously universally fatal can be cured or lifespan prolonged because of pharmaceuticals. If you are healthy without pharmaceuticals, that’s awesome but millions of people would die prematurely (who are not as unfortunate as you) without them. By all means, encourage your friends to eat properly and exercise but don’t jeopordize their health by ‘trying to play doctor’. Yes, share your experiences but understand your limitations to provide medical advise. I am not a rocket scientist, therefore, I don’t tell anyone how to build a rocket. The same should apply to those not in healthcare/public healthcare/clinical research. The experience of friends are called anecdotes/observations. From a clinical research standpoint, there are far too many potential flaws in drawing reliable conclusions based on solely your experience or that of even a couple hundred friends. Scientific research in ANY field incl NON medical simply doesn’t work that way as any researcher will tell you. Peace!!

        • sequence

          Big Pharma is your Daddy? I guess so. Pharmaceuticals should be used only in case of EMERGENCY! Period! Name one, just 1 chronic condition cured by a pill? And by “cured” means no more drugs required.

          • Richard

            So in your esteemed opinion, should patients with a weak heart function no longer use diuretics? OK, one might consider the accumulation of fluid in the lungs an emergency, justifying the use of said parmaceuticals – but on the other hand, it is a chronic condition that usually can’t be fixed.
            And should rheumatic patients simply accept the never-ending pain and swelling caused by the chronic inflammation of their joints? There’s no real emergency there…

            There are numerous other examples where chronic conditions can be made bearable and/or survivable for quite a long time using medicines. Or to put it this way: if Big Pharma were to stop delivering all their products tomorrow, a sizable part of the elderly population would no longer live another month, and just as many people’s lives would become rather more, um, ‘uncomfortable’.

            No, I’m not very fond of pharmaceutical companies either. They’re usually greedy, sometimes plain dishonest, and every now and then they cause real bad scandals. But quite a few of their products actually work, and even save lives — and not always at huge cost or with terrible side effects. Don’t throw away that baby with the bath water.

          • Karon L. Beasley

            There are certain diseases and conditions that must be treated and the risk of not taking the medicine are very dangerous. I have a friend with a clotting disorder that almost died from clotting in her lungs and this article is giving very irresponsible and dangerous advice. A family member of mine has seizures, without medication, he can’t drive. He is young, needs to work and has no public transportation. Nor does he want to fall out and have a grand-mal seizure and be hurt. He has 2 types of seizures. As well, explain the increase of breast and other cancer survivors that are cancer free and have been for years or decades? People with HIV/Aids now living a normal healthy life…because of medication. They took chemotherapy. It is a fact that people are living longer and overcoming diseases. I have severe life threatening lupus and would not be alive were it not for my 20+ medications I have to take. With my illnesses, I can’t afford to NOT get a flu/Pneumonia shot, the flu would likely kill me and pneumonia almost has. People with compromised immune systems are susceptible to opportunistic infections and at risk. If it the flu shot does not work, nor harm done. But look at the diseases that are gone (Polio, whooping cough, etc) because of vaccines.I can also tell you I have had shingles in the tri-geminal region of my head, I have nerve pain so bad, if I did not take medication, I would go insane with the pain – plus shingles cost a friend of mine her hearing because it was in the same part of her head. Early treatment is critical. How dare EWAO be so careless in writing an article like this. Fact: At least 30K or more people visit the ER from the side affects of supplements. No one wants to take medication, but at the end of the day, when things get “real” and you will likely take the medication or DIE. I don’t see opiates on the top of the list – they are killing people everyday with misuse! OK I will stop.
            (Lupus/RA and organ damage from NOT getting treatment w medications early. I take 20 medications each day and would not be alive without them.)

          • David P Mccarron

            Chronic condition…..Hepatitis C and there are millions in this country w Hep C.
            Btw, a class of heart medication can potential restore heart function to normal in patients with congestive heart failure and allow longer life and better quality of life. This was discovered approx 20 years ago. Before that, people with congestive heart failure lived:
            A) shorter lives.
            B) had more frequent hospitalizations.
            C) had more severe, chronic symptoms from their heart failure.

            I am not employed by Big Pharma nor benefit in any way from my opinion on pharmaceuticals. If prescription medications can be avoided, I am ALL for it. A major problem is that many people have blinders based on no good data that ALL pharmaceuticals are bad. They have preconceived notion that all are bad and do not remain open minded.
            I encourage you to ask questions. I am happy to respond. Thanks!

            🙂

          • David P Mccarron

            Look at patients w HIV…lifespan extended to almost normal in those who take their medications. Magic Johnson dx’d about 25 years ago. Still alive. Before or without meds…dead 5-10 years after dx depending on stage at dx. NO herbal meds accomplish this. Think of the millions w HIV who can potentially live nml lives because of meds. Amazing and awesome!!

          • Paul

            The problem with Magic’s case is he really doesn’t have AIDS and that is why he has been alive and continues to thrive after a diagnosis almost 26 years ago!

          • David P Mccarron

            Paul…do you know difference between HIV and AIDS? AIDS occurs when HIV progresses I.e. Immune system damaged to point where patient starts having opportunistic infections, malignancies that people with normal immune systems would not have. Do you know why his HIV has not progressed to AIDS? Because of pharmaceuticals. It is a virtual certainty he would have died 10-15 years ago without pharmaceuticals. Please read a little more about HIV/AIDS. 🙂

          • Paul

            Yes, I am aware of the difference. Magic has something similar to HIV, just not HIV!

          • Paul

            David, are you retired or is hanging out here a moonlighting job?

          • Paul

            I don’t believe I ever said or even implied that all pharmaceuticals were useless or scams!

          • Vanessa Guyette

            So, you are saying that extending a life and making that person feel better when they have a chronic condition is negated because there is no cure. So many seem unable to handle any information not completely agreeing with what they have decided is truth. There are so many who seem to develop a mindset that allows no further education to influence their opinion even if that information has been proven. I am seeing this on so many sites. The response to someone politely trying to educate is name calling and attack. Do you know what has happened from research at St Jude? Certain childhood cancers have so much higher cure rates and so many more children live a normal lifespan. One type of leukemia had a survival rate of only a few percent and now has a survival rate in the 90 percent range. I bet every parent if thrilled that big pharm and certain medications allow their children to live.

        • origwwotp

          When you have had to save your own life as many times as I have while having the stupidity of using the ‘doctors’ certified by the ‘medical authorities’ after training in the pharmaceutically supported ‘medical schools,’ then you can be judgemental of those who refuse abusive treatments that target symptoms and ignore base causes such as nutrition and lifestyle choices. I tell most doctors they are paid medical advisers, and if they can’t work with me, I won’t work with them. Plain and simple. I also tell them, and it is true, it is nothing personal, it is just that their education did not include any studies on ME. I know how they are trained, what their classes teach (a syllabus is a powerful tool, and easily obtained,) and their rigorous training in-deep so far that they forget the difference between an antibody test and one which would actually find the LIVE virus. There is a FREAKING difference!!!! One hour of nutrition, and zip knowledge of the interaction of the thousands of chemicals the human body is besieged with day in day out, eating, medicating, cleaning, and simply breathing. So, they administer more and ignore the gigantic holes in their great knowledge. I cured my own cancer in under 120 days, scientific proof was obtained through their tests. They’ve supposedly worked years for very few effective ‘treatments.’ I’ve an edge on most people since I have a rare genetic disorder that few doctors know about and have practiced personal defensive medicine on myself for 45 of my 60 years. Do the math. I first saved myself from their clutches at 15. I’m just lucky to be extremely intelligent, logical, and educated in multiple disciplines. I feel sorry for those who are caught in the medical system. Intensely. However, I am not suicidal, in the slightest.

        • Jonathan Gravenor

          thank you – sanity prevails. Last month I went to a 5 year anniversary party with 12 other Chemo patients. We have ALL survived our cancer. This article would make us a medical miracle

          • David P Mccarron

            A couple points
            -I, too, am cancer survivor. 🙂
            -I don’t discount a role for alternative therapies but using the best available medical literature, the VAST majority of alternative therapies do NOT have data from well designed studies to support benefit. FDA approved chemo DOES have convincing data.
            -Yes, there are some unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies but those are EXTREMELY RARE. Sadly, EWAO pushes a Big Pharma conspiracy theory which is beyond absurd.
            -Yes, Big Pharma profit driven but that doesn’t mean their products not beneficial.
            -Alternative therapy and herbal/supplement industry HUGELY profit driven…$30 billion in supplement sales last year w products that have virtually no GOOD data to support benefit. There is no conspiracy by anyone to discredit supplement industry.
            -Supplement incl natural remedies carry risk of harm…30,000 emergency room visits for side effects of supplements last year and number increasing rapidly.
            -yes, chemotherapy has side effects as alternative therapies do but FAR, FAR more lives saved, strokes, heart attacks prevented, cancers treated and, in some cases, cured by pharmaceuticals than harmed by these meds. EWAO talks only about the rare side effects. They fail to point out ratio or harm to benefit…..part of the scam. People die in horrific automobile accidents daily…have you stopped driving?

          • David P Mccarron

            Alternative therapy docs LOVE patients who believe their scam…insurance doesn’t cover most of these therapies so people pay with cold, hard cash$$$$ sometimes depleting their savings/retirement and the scamming alt therapy docs laugh all the way to the bank! Sad and shameful.

          • James B.

            More of the same allopathic propaganda from you…

            The $30 billion dollar supplement industry pales against the 2+ Trillion dollar allopathic industry. Guess which industry breeds the biggest scammers and has the biggest incentive to NOT care about people, and who has more power and financial clout to propagate their false propaganda and to crush competitors like alternative medicine? Anyone can read the proof who the biggest criminals are in Marcia Angell’s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime” – Dr. Gøtzsche called the conventional medical industry a mafia. Your disinformation and whitewashing barrage of comments wants to falsely and misleadingly plant the notion in the reader’s mind that corporate medicine is a benevolent business operation.

            As I said in my 1st comment about you…

            You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

            The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

            Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

        • Karon L. Beasley

          Totally agree, there are certain diseases that must be treated and the risk of not taking the medicine are dangerous. I have a friend with a clotting disorder that almost died and this is stupid and dangerous advice. As well, explain the increase of breast and other cancer survivors that are cancer free and have been for years or decades? How dare a page like this be so careless. BS Agree that 30K visits for supplements or more end up at the ER.

        • Jeanne deWard

          Thank you. Excellent post.

        • dragonswing

          Many people, including myself, have used the herbal remedies and got significant results without suffering the side effects of manmade pharmaceutical drugs. I will stick to herbs and essential oils.

        • Merridy Clark-Vickers

          Well said! Being in the medical field for 30 years…as soon as I saw the first medicine, I knew this was bogus!

        • James B.

          You state “make sure sources are reliable..peer reviewed, medical literature”

          You’re stating in another message here that “I have been in healthcare/public health/clinical research for 27 years. I am no better than anyone, I just have a different skill set and the comments I made are based on my area of expertise.”

          Evidently, you may have skills in your “area of expertise” but you clearly don’t know the reality about your “area of expertise” because a real prestigious science researcher, John Ioannidis (and others), has long shown that most of what’s published in the medical literature is false, this includes “randomized, controlled trials and meta-analyses.” Hence, the vast majority of medical research is unreliable, unlike your wrong “claim” that it is reliable. So what’s really “absolutely shameful” is that you’re convinced that you firmly know what’s going on when you really don’t. Yet, out of your pompous sense of superiority you dismiss people who are not “experts” (like you) in this field (“people without appropriate knowledge of a subject drawing conclusions”). So virtually every comment (=your “conclusions”) you make here on this site (and likely everywhere else) is based on your false premise about medical research and the orthodox medical business. Meaning, what you say is unreliable. Bogus. Hype. Disinformation.

          You represent the worst kind of deception for the public. The question is are you doing it intentionally or is it just due to your pure ignorance?

          The criminal allopoathic medical business (read Marcia Angell´s book ”The Truth About the Drug Companies. How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It” or Peter Gøtzsche’s “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime”) has people like you on their payroll: they’re called turf protectors, using misleading propaganda (eg, downplaying risks of corporate medicine, exaggerating benefits of corporate medicine, using various fact distortions to deride alternative medicine).

          Everyone who just reads these two books by two highly qualified experts on medical science will readily see the propaganda you’re tossing out left and right……

    • MacDonalds Medicine.

      David I agree….. anyone who believes that vaccinations are bad for you has simply forgotten about how awful measles, smallpox etc was. Its because vaccinations have been so successful that people have forgotten what it was like before vaccination. Read Roald Dahls account of how is 8 yr old died from measles encephalitis…. its gut wrenching…. but all the idiots in here who believe that vaccines are dangerous are putting innocent children at risk…. if they believe in aliens too perhaps the mothership cab take them away…..

  • Sandy Levy Smith

    An incredible amount of biased, incomplete and inaccurate information in this article. 🙁

    • Paul

      Incomplete…maybe, but chemo is a killer and not a killer of cancer!

      • Phraughy

        Saved my life

      • Chloe Clark

        phraughy, you may have lived without the chemo. did they do surgery or radiation as well??

        • Phraughy

          yep, surgery to remove the tumors then 8 weeks of the Stanford V regimen followed by radiation to the initial site of the disease.

      • David P Mccarron

        Chemotherapy, in general, kills the most rapidly dividing cells in the body. In folks with cancer, it is the cancers that are typically the most rapidly duplicating. This is indisputable. Yes, they have side effects but, in most cases, benefits outweigh risks. For example, if a powerful blood thinner prevents 10 strokes for every internal bleed it causes, would you take the drug if at high risk of stroke? You drive a car, right? There is a risk of dying EVERY time you drive your car. Have you stopped driving?

        • Paul

          My above remark on the ineffectiveness of chemotherapy comes from medical doctors such as Joseph Mercola, M.D. and Stanislaw Burzynski, M.D., of Houston, who has used alternative methods to cure some late stage cancer patients, including his most famous breast cancer patient, Suzanne Somers.

          You might wish to check out these two medical doctors, especially Dr. Burzynski of Houston.

          • David P Mccarron

            i don’t doubt there are exceptions as you have pointed out but they are exceptions. Keep in mind, until you compare the number who have responded to alternative therapies to those who have not, you can draw no conclusions. If you hear about 5 people who responded, you might say..’hey, alternatively therapies work’. Sadly, what you are not told is that it didn’t work on the other 1000 people who tried it. This happens regularly, a few anecdotes/exceptions get (mis) interpreted as beneficial to everyone.

          • Paul

            David, I have never been on this site before, as it just happened to “pop up” on my screen, but after a brief perusal of the myriad remarks posted, it becomes quite obvious that you have a rather ubiquitous presence here. So, are you a big pharma troll who does regular damage control for the pharmaceutical industry?

          • Jonathan Gravenor

            Paul – I have read my whole way through – nowhere does it look like David is doing anything other that displaying documented facts. Yet you are using rumor and innuendo to establish your position.
            Never did David say to stop looking at or using alternative methods – he is saying get the facts.
            I would like governments to invest in more alternative medicine studies – long term. But I would also like advocates on non traditional medicines to stop using lies to quantify their opinions.

          • Paul

            Most of what you have said to defend David is irrelevant because most of your defense is of things I never even implied about him! But he is an intelligent adult who can comment for himself. Are you a close friend or spokesman for him??

          • James Peters
          • Paul

            James, your penchant for privacy of your numerous posts, from what I believe is your residence in the UK, gives me every reason to believe that you are just another paid establishment blogger, whose job it is to neutralize any information which might cause a reader to doubt the mainstream medical/pharma mediacracy.

          • David P Mccarron

            Thank you and spot on!!!

          • David P Mccarron

            Paul- you are aware that there exists no proof of benefit of ow Dr.py treatment, correct? You are aware that he accepts CASH ONLY for his treatment, correct? He is widely considered a quack. Make sure you know about all the people who have NOT responded to his therapy. He conveniently doesn’t mention those. Rarely, tumors will undergo spontaneous regression even without treatment. If any of his patients got better, this is more likely than anything he did.

          • Paul

            I understand his cash only stipulation but I wouldn’t dare get into the reasons for that on this site! I will delve deeper into his treatments, and though I wouldn’t necessarily rely on him alone, there is little to nothing in the traditional treatment plans that I would trust at all!

          • Paul

            To each his own, as it’s a choice of the patient. I have no real concern with the path anyone might choose. But prevention is what is most important and for those who have concern, they might look into eating only foods that have less chance of increasing ones vulnerability. The same is true for ones drinking water! Look out for the next disease that we will have to deal with because those diseases produce a never ending revenue stream.

          • https://www.facebook.com/tinacoon2006 Tina Corbett

            Wait, you actually used Mercola as a ‘reputable’ doctor?? The ‘doctor’ that lives in his multi-million dollar mansion that was paid for by saps who buy his online snake oils, while he holds conferences about the danger of “Big Pharma” that’s supposedly only in it for the money?

            You mean that guy?!?

            Hahahahahahahahah!!!!

          • Jonathan Gravenor

            You really arent holding Burzynski up as your model alternative Doctor are you?

          • Bryan

            And there’s your problem. When Mercola says it, take it with a dump truck of salt.

      • https://www.facebook.com/tinacoon2006 Tina Corbett

        Bull. My cancer was cured by chemo. Because of the ‘evil’ chemo, my kids still have a mother.

      • Jonathan Gravenor

        Last month i went to a 5 year anniversary with 11 other people – we all had chemo together. According to this article we are a medical miracle.
        The information in this article re chemo is a lie.
        I hope one day no-one will have to do chemo – but for many it has worked

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  • Kim Warfield Weber

    IMO – #5 has the most overused medications with those that I work with (elderly population). I see the side effects from the combination of Anti-Anxiety & Depression meds almost daily. I believe that (in most cases) at least 3 non chemical type interventions should be tried before any chemical restraints (meds) being initiated.

  • goatlady

    Never have taken a flu shot. I keep my immune system strong by passing on MD medicine and using a good homeopath for all my health needs.

    • OkieTee

      That’s wise!

    • Chris Marcelle

      we don’t due flu shots either. we do the same!

  • Harold Hern
  • Gloria Dearstyne Lambert

    no flu shot for me this year!!

    • Esther Sch

      Never!

  • Cassy Johnston

    Wow…I guess you just have to be your best advocate…I look up everything and decide what I will take and that is based on research…if its die or take an antibiotic…Im taking it…feel pain or take opiates I usually deal with the pain..unless its a toothache..then all bets are off!

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  • Elga Konietzny

    i do not take any medication,,,i had ONE vaccine many,many years ago,,,,i try to take resonsibility for my health,,,,it is MY body,,,,i start with healthy food and responsible life style,,,

    • David P Mccarron

      That’s exactly the first step to long and healthy life.

  • Richard

    What a horrible load of lies, nonsense and misinformation — and that’s putting it as politely as I can manage.
    Some items (such as the suggestion to replace blood thinners with some quack ‘remedy’) are almost criminally irresponsible, and will certainly kill numerous thrombosis patients who take this seriously. Several other items (#1, #3 and #4) aren’t much better either, and only #5 and #6 show a decent amount of truth.

    Yes, medication can sometimes have seriously harmful side effects, and one should always strive to only take medicine when really necessary. But the author of this nonsense here clearly tries to scare sick people away from real doctors and into the arms of useless quacks.
    Always consult a (real) doctor for any drug-related questions. And for those who chronically take drugs: schedule a ‘pharma check’ with your doctor or specialist at least once a year, to assess the situation and perhaps cut down on or even abandon certain medicine, or replace it with less harmful alternatives.

    • Queda Crutchfield

      Consult a “real” doctor? What constitutes a “real” doctor? Someone trained by the pharmaceutical companies? There are other “real” doctors who try to find the underlying cause of an issue and go from there. Drugs are not the BEST answer. A healthy diet and lifestyle is. It IS hard to follow a healthy diet because of the way our foods have been messed up, however, it is possible. Do not eat white sugar and white flour or processed foods (which means you have to cook from scratch!!). Eat only organic meats from animals who have not been raised with antibiotics, hormones, etc., and are allowed to be grass-fed. We have ruined our foods in order to make money — faster growth of our meats, Round-up on our food crops, etc. It takes effort, but is worth it.

      • Richard

        *Sigh* Real doctors are NOT trained by pharmaceutical companies, but by scientists and by other doctors. Pharmacology is only part of the training – and even that part isn’t taught by pharmaceutical companies, but again by scientists. This is not to boost Big Pharma’s drugs sales or anything, but simply because our bodies are huge, complex chemical systems. EVERYTHING in our bodies happens through chemistry of a kind.
        And yes, those real doctors do try to find the underlying cause of ailments, and yes those real doctors do attempt to fix those, if possible. And judging by the huge increase in life span and the extreme reduction in child mortality in the past hundred years or so, they’re not doing too shabby a job at that, even if that often involves drugs.

        About food being messed up: indeed, people often choose an unhealthy diet. Far too much carbs, fat and meat, and too little fibers and plant proteins. But whose fault is that? We humans are programmed by evolution to love fat and sweet food, and to save energy (read: eschew exercise). But because those sweet fatty things usually were in short supply and/or needed lots of exercise to obtain, that very same evolution has caused our bodies to actually thrive on lots of plant material and not too much energy intake, plus quite a bit of daily exercise.
        Nowadays, we’re caught in a nasty complicity between the food industry and the consumer — the consumer is still very human, and still has a taste for sweet and fatty things. And the industry not only obliges, but actually strives to make those things even tastier, simply to sell more… So yes, a big part of the solution is to reject bad food, and yes, that can be very hard for those who have grown accustomed (not to say: addicted) to it.
        But people inevitably grow older, and their bodies inevitably will start failing one way or another. Things such as a weak heart function cannot be solved with even the most balanced diet and exercise; it is either start using medicine to help the heart or die, so in part, drugs help us get old, even though they often can’t fix things.
        But I agree that a lot of people are a lot lazier and find it simpler to try and ‘fix’ the consequences of an unhealthy lifestyle with drugs…

    • Karon L. Beasley

      There are certain diseases and conditions that must be treated and the risk of not taking the medicine are very dangerous. I have a friend with a clotting disorder that almost died from clotting in her lungs and this article is giving very irresponsible and dangerous advice. A family member of mine has seizures, without medication, he can’t drive. He is young, needs to work and has no public transportation. Nor does he want to fall out and have a grand-mal seizure and be hurt. He has 2 types of seizures. As well, explain the increase of breast and other cancer survivors that are cancer free and have been for years or decades? People with HIV/Aids now living a normal healthy life…because of medication. They took chemotherapy. It is a fact that people are living longer and overcoming diseases. I have severe life threatening lupus and would not be alive were it not for my 20+ medications I have to take. With my illnesses, I can’t afford to NOT get a flu/Pneumonia shot, the flu would likely kill me and pneumonia almost has. People with compromised immune systems are susceptible to opportunistic infections and at risk. If it the flu shot does not work, nor harm done. But look at the diseases that are gone (Polio, whooping cough, etc) because of vaccines.I can also tell you I have had shingles in the tri-geminal region of my head, I have nerve pain so bad, if I did not take medication, I would go insane with the pain – plus shingles cost a friend of mine her hearing because it was in the same part of her head. Early treatment is critical. How dare EWAO be so careless in writing an article like this. Fact: At least 30K or more people visit the ER from the side affects of supplements. No one wants to take medication, but at the end of the day, when things get “real” and you will likely take the medication or DIE. I don’t see opiates on the top of the list – they are killing people everyday with misuse! OK I will stop.

  • Larry Dizon

    YES! THATS TRUE MEDECINES HAVE SIDE EFFECTS BECAUSE OF TOXICITY. I SUGGEST TO ALL THAT ITS THE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS, RESEARCH, and CHOOSE THE RIGHT MEDICATION YOU SHOULD TAKE or undergo when it comes to synthetic or pharmaceutical medication. Go now to natural subtance that you can ask questions about research and clinical studies of it and very safe to take without overdose, underdose and no contraindications. With that you can call me at 09154169890 or visit my website >>https://4Life.com/9162289/about/science<&lt;. This was already in morethan 82 countries including Philippines and you should know this instead.

  • Susan Y.

    There is so much MISINFORMATION in this article that I am shocked anyone is sharing this. Please don’t just read this and take it for honest truth. I personally know of many, many lives saved by chemotherapy even in stage 4 cancers. I also get the flu vaccine along with so many friends and relatives and have never known any of us to get bronchitis or illness directly after receiving it. Don’t believe the hysteria about medicine, just weigh the risks before you decide not to, the risks could very well be much greater not allowing your doctors to treat you.

  • Tosca De Lutte

    And Jasmin anticonception PIL should be taken out of commerce also!! The hormone DROSPIRENON took ME almost my life in 2007. It provoced tromboses and phlebites turned into a massive lungembolie. Yes, the so said “medicaments” are sometimes a deadly trap for our bodies. BE careful and take as LESS as possible. I take natural products and sometimes a paracetamol tablet. That is the only tablet my body still supports. Best regards and take care!!

  • https://www.4life.com/9162289 Larry Dizon

    yes i believed so much in medecine… I believe meds are toxic, waste, hazrd. It means its a poison. Why? SIMPLE!!! You cannot take it without food and if you insist to take it w/o food something BAD will happen to you. Same thing with chemo it is also a poison/ Radiation or whatever this kind of medication was intended to kill all your cancer cells or bad cells inside the body. Yes, you will be good TEMPORARILY after medication. Good news but not only the bad cell /cancer cells will be killed but also your good cells. IT MEANS YOU WILL DIE!!! TO THIS KIND OF MEDICATION. After the chemo and other pharma medications ( not only to those cancer patient also to those with minor diseases or sicknesses). And worst thing… what will happen to you USING the MEDS? Yes, month after month you CANCER or disease RE- OCCURS. And, im not saying all but I can say most of them doctors and hospitals and the Pharmaceutical industry is the biggest bunch of CROOKS in this world.
    Better not to take meds / antibiotic once you have minor diseases just take NATURAL SUBTANCE or PRODUCTS >>https://www.4life.com/9162289/about/science<&lt; Because everything depends on our Immune System. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e32c5652945cd42d6b72b86996218652d834310ecb6b84d092c228f106bfd669.jpg

  • http://www.totalautomationworks.com Phil Tuttobene

    Taking silver daily will improve your immune system to the point you will hardly ever get sick. Putting it directly in the eyes or ears cures infections to those areas, Applying to skin makes for fast healing.
    No reason to take antibiotics with this natural preventative.
    https://www.iherb.com/pr/Sovereign-Silver-Bio-Active-Silver-Hydrosol-32-fl-oz-946-ml/59664?ccode=us&currcode=USD&langcode=en-US&gclid=CPGcnsK4ttYCFZaIswodv-wHrg

  • https://www.facebook.com/tinacoon2006 Tina Corbett

    Who the hell wrote this drivel?

    Oh yeah that’s right…a person with an online website that just so happens to sell you a super duper, extra speshul , all ‘natchural’ alternative. For only $99.

    That’s unproven and probably whipped up in some idiots garage.

    What a load of crap!

  • blessed

    All of this is so scary. It’s a lot to digest!! I have been on Plavix for well over 25 years for an Ischemic Attack.. Then I was put on Tegretol for the diagnosis of Trigeminal Neuralgia. After 23 years, it stopped working. I was switched to Lamictal….did not experience the AWFUL side effects! I have been taking it since August, 2014! I was recently placed on Eliquis for AdFib. TWO BLOOD THINNERS! I am on 2 HBP meds! Well, a CEO of some pharmaceutical company can afford to take their annual cruise just from the prescriptions of my meds! Some doctors (and an ER nurse) wanted to know why I was placed on 2 blood thinners? Too much for me.

  • Melanie Wise

    I am disgusted that you are saying not to take epilepsy treatment drugs. I quote “What’s the point in treating seizures with a drug that damages a vital organ?”. Taking an epilepsy drug (which I do) prevents you from having seizures. Or minimizes them. You go tell that to my neurologist.

  • Melanie Wise

    How come I can’t easily find the author?

  • Jonathan Gravenor
  • Karon L. Beasley

    WOW! SERIOUSLY? There are certain diseases and conditions that must be treated and the risk of not taking the medicine are very dangerous. I have a friend with a clotting disorder that almost died from clotting in her lungs and this article is giving very irresponsible and dangerous advice. A family member of mine has seizures, without medication, he can’t drive. He is young, needs to work and has no public transportation. Nor does he want to fall out and have a grand-mal seizure and be hurt. He has 2 types of seizures. As well, explain the increase of breast and other cancer survivors that are cancer free and have been for years or decades? People with HIV/Aids now living a normal healthy life…because of medication. They took chemotherapy. It is a fact that people are living longer and overcoming diseases. I have severe life threatening lupus and would not be alive were it not for my 20+ medications I have to take. With my illnesses, I can’t afford to NOT get a flu/Pneumonia shot, the flu would likely kill me and pneumonia almost has. People with compromised immune systems are susceptible to opportunistic infections and at risk. If it the flu shot does not work, nor harm done. But look at the diseases that are gone (Polio, whooping cough, etc) because of vaccines.I can also tell you I have had shingles in the tri-geminal region of my head, I have nerve pain so bad, if I did not take medication, I would go insane with the pain – plus shingles cost a friend of mine her hearing because it was in the same part of her head. Early treatment is critical. How dare EWAO be so careless in writing an article like this. Fact: At least 30K or more people visit the ER from the side affects of supplements. No one wants to take medication, but at the end of the day, when things get “real” and you will likely take the medication or DIE. I don’t see opiates on the top of the list – yes they are needed for some serious pain, but killing people everyday with misuse! So if you believe this mess, after surgery, a major one, I can promise you will want the pain to stop. I am finished.

  • Realistic Goalz

    AED’s – can’t live with them, afraid to live without them

  • Papa Yai Yai K

    F.D.A. is own by bis Food ans Big Drugs Co.

  • Chris Marcelle

    I have been practicing holistic medicine for over 20 years. I totally agree with this article. I believe most Dr’s are ignorant and are like puppets. What ever the ‘drug’ of the month is from the pharm co’s they push!

  • Chris Marcelle

    All diseases come from inflammation and oxidative stress. I take a product that in addition to addressing inflammation and oxidative stress has a collagen matrix and repairs at the cellular level. Side effects gets rid of wrinkles and joint pain, and improves my quality of life. Can not remember the last time I was ill.

  • Dennis Jefferson

    Let’s just say Meds do NOT Heal.

  • Charlotte Vaughn

    One of the sources cited is “cdc.news”. This is not from the Center of Disease Control. This is not a reliable site. Do not be duped by look alike sites.

  • Donna Potter

    Some of this is nothing but rubbish, meant to cause hysteria and push their own point of view. People my age played with mercury many times and did not get sick. The amount in a flu shot is not going to hurt.
    As for the claim about bleeding to death from a cut caused by a minor internal injury, that’s just not even possible.. And liver damage from seizure meds does happen but after 43 years as an RN I have never seen it happen “instantly.” anyone taking certain anti-convulsants should have their liver functions monitored regularly. This piece of rubbish also fails to take into account the possibility of dying from a grand mal or even from a petit mal that happens at the wrong time, such as while driving or when swimming. Blood thinners are not given lightly. I recently had a blood clot in my leg and received blood thinners because if the clot traveled elsewhere it could have been fatal. Modern physicians have many weapons to combat bleeding including hemorrhage protocols used when someone has a massive amount of bleeding. And some blood thinners (not all) have antidotes. And yes, benzos can cause addiction and there are some side effects but not everyone gets them. And we have known for years that someone that is depressed will not do well if they are put on benzos but many people with depression also have anxiety which benzos can treat successfully. some of the side effects mentioned only happen in huge overdoses or when the drugs are taken along side a fruit salad of other meds. The stats quoted for the effectiveness of chemo are also not true. If it only worked 2.3% of the time it would have been abandoned years ago. I know many cancer patients that are alive today because of chemo. Many had childhood leukemia which cannot be cut out like other cancers. The drugs are becoming more and more specific to certain parts if the patient’s genetic makeup so that they can target the abnormality. Where drugs do hurt people is economically because of the price gouging by pharmaceutical companies.
    To publish something like this is totally irresponsible and meant to prey on people that do not look at all sides of an issue.

  • Jeanne deWard

    Lies, lies, and more lies.

  • christopher oliver

    Most all of this is utter BS …Do your own research.. Many 100’s of 1000’s die that do NOT get the flu vaccine ..eg…the use of minute amounts of mercury is used to excite the body’s immune system. This is especially useful & is extensively used in many children’s medicines…Small amounts of poisons are used successfully in homeopathy…. Aluminium is the most abundant mineral on earth and is in just about everything consumed…very small amounts preserve vaccines…you get huge amounts more in almost all processed foods…..Some people do have adverse reactions… just as there are those allergic to peanuts…you have more chance of getting killed or injured crossing the road than you would having ANY vaccine.

  • Myla McLoughlin

    How many people die of heroin per year – probably under 20 in Australia and there is all sorts of support for them – and fair enough. Police try to catch the pushers and lock them up. But doctors ADMIT to killing 18,000 Australians per year and we pay them $$$$$ Billions as they rip off Medicare and there are no repercussions – it is almost impossible to successfully sue a doctor or medical practitioner in Australia.

  • Hazel Ostrander

    how bout Statins ?

  • http://hightechforum.org/ Richard Bennett

    There is not a single credible scientific source for any of these claims.

  • paul_k_666

    “Flu vaccines in multi-dose vials contain thimerosal to safeguard against contamination of the vial. Most single-dose vials and pre-filled syringes of flu shot and the nasal spray flu vaccine do not contain a preservative because they are intended to be only used once.” https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

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  • Madalyn E. Russek

    Please go back and edit because there were also a lot of grammatical mistakes. Also, I’m a bit iffy about this article because it remains so vague. Sometimes the only option is to take a particular medication (like blood thinners or even chemo) in order to live.

  • Nancy Carr De Pauk

    How do I read the article?

  • https://www.facebook.com/pages/NRMBL/747979958570633?ref=aymt_homepage_panel Drago Dijete

    Beware of the Benzos /!

  • thomas thompson

    Two powerful blood thinners — Heparin and Coumadin — saved my life more than 30 years ago. I was very grateful to have them around. And Benzodiazepines, while they can be addictive, do not have that effect on everyone. I was grateful for them, too.

  • Carol A Franklin

    I don’t know about most of these (although I won’t take a flu shot & cancer treatments seem barbaric) but I do know about seizure meds. I took them for 30 years before there was any problem with my liver. I took as little as possible (less than prescribed), but I would rather go without seizures. I’ve been seizure free for the last 20 years, so I’m no longer taking them, still avoiding strobe lights

  • Cindi Tidwell Vernon

    CIPRO antibiotic should be added to this !

  • Jeffrey-the Barak

    This is dangerous misinformation. You should be ashamed of yourselves for persuading people to avoid safe medicine. What a load of rubbish.

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