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Stephen Hawking Just Said “God Does Not Exist and The Universe is Not His Creation”

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  • MomaBee

    So then who/what created the “inevitable law of physics”. Seems pretty complicated to be spawned from nothing.

    • susan faccone

      I hear this kind of reply a lot. My question is How come people have such a hard time believing that something came from nothing (such as the universe created itself) , but if there was a God, he too would have come from nothing (he would have created himself) , and most have no problem believing that.

      • Philippe Simon

        Precisely…
        we are the creators of our own universe, we are God, or God is within all of us…
        as simple as that.

        • Clark

          Do you prefer to believe there is no God and die and find out there is one or will you believe there is a God and die and fight death out there is none.

          • Chris Marais

            Ok..God created the big bang….
            Now nobody can argue.

      • Sniper CakeDeath

        what if you think about it like this , god created creation , and our human tiny mind cannot comprehend such big worldly stuff , can you even think about theres no end to the world no wall nothing without feeling weird

    • Erik T.

      The only arguments that win debates on God, are those from agnosticism. Not knowing these types of answers is provable; what exists outside our visible universe is virtually unfathomable.

  • Schmaltzy

    Hopefully Kim Davis, anti-LGBT clerk will read this and off herself.

  • Paul Hines

    Is God the creator of our imagination, or is God a product of our imagination?

  • Tami Stillwell

    We will never know what creation is. People can guess and speculate. A creator is what I choose to believe, rather than random science bringing together a perfect accident for life. I admit that there are things I don’t know and would like to hear more admit to that.

    • Cody

      Science itself admits there are things we don’t know, rather that we know so little compared to what we do knoe. The whole basis of science is not knowing but searching to know, not by speculation but by asking questions and then following a method of coming to understand what we don’t know, through evidence. It is ideas like religion that maintain knowing all the answers–the answers being “God”–where science is literally based on not knowing. Could you imagine a world run by the ideology behind religion? No one would quest for knowledge because we would know everything. What’s the point when all the answers just end as “God” ? It’d be so boring, and we’d still be living in caves and trees

      • Christopher Knox

        Dark Ages.

        • Sean Royo

          I pray for you cody, because you do not have FAITH. in the future try not to have your sons and daughters have their baptism and their first communion and teach them not to believe in god, the creator. i ask you, do you see air? you don’t right? but you believe it exists? right? because you won’t be commenting this argument if it doesnt. go to your nearest beach, is it blue, gray or green? get a glass and get water from the beach, now tell me is it blue, gray or green..not. i respect if you dont believe in a higher authority because you have no faith, faith is never seen, it is felt by the spirit soul.

          • urnotathinkerareu?

            we know it exists because of its properties…the air analogy is the stupidest one Ive heard yet and Ive heard a few…lol…’FELT” by spirit…..hahahahah…thats an even better one….and a ‘soul” has never been proven…but one needs ‘faith” to feel it….my goodness you people are morons…seriously…take some science classes.

          • Sean Royo

            you are one of the most stupid entity ive come accrossed with, scientists, majority of them deny god, you cannot quantify the power of the creator, it is beyond our mind. scientists deny the existence of god yet they proved in the 70’s and discovered there is ANTI MATTER. so the material world and non material matter existed out of nothing? and the ” air analogy ” it’s a simple fact you moron, you dont see it but feel and need it, its called FAITH. i just hope and pray that when you go to your deathbed and your children’s children, that god smile upon all of you. i pity you and at the same time i pray that you will be not given a test from nature about your wrong wisdom

          • Thomas A. Lloyd

            OK, so science is your god. Go worship it and we that believe will have FAITH in the true, only God, and creator. To you we’re ignorant, to us your IGNANT, and the beat goes on…and the beat goes on !!!

          • Cody

            Well okay then

          • Sean Royo

            you dont feel the spirit soul because you are ignorant of it, you just believe the mind, you have ti grow up, before its late

          • Cody

            Sean Royo, Wow. So that is your argument? I’ll address each of your points though, as I don’t believe in replying just to insult. So, if I have sons or daughters, I absolutely won’t have them baptized. I’ll educate them on religion, on many religions, and science. But I won’t indoctrinate them into anything. And of course I don’t see air; I breathe it. I don’t “believe” it exists, I literally know it does. It’s called science, and it isn’t faith, it is understanding the facts of how it works. It has its own symbol on the periodic table; it’s not some random invisible thing I or anyone else chooses to believe in. And I’m not sure I understand your water analogy or how that applies

          • Sean Royo

            cody, i wish you well and your children too, happy sunday!

          • Sean Royo

            your reasoning is really undermining your character and your whole being as a person my friend, imma tell you this, please tell your children that god doesnt exist, there are no guardian angels, there are no miracles that healed millions of lives thru prayers and tell them not to pray at night when they need help when they get bullied or have some issues with school or not to pray at all, please tell them. try it

          • Cody

            Sean, I will absolutely tell my children that, if I ever have children. I’ll tell them it’s okay to have and talk to imaginary friends in their young ages, as long as they know they aren’t actually real. And when they get older I’ll tell them to actually confront and realistically handle and cope with their problems, rather than thinking that believing in fairytales will help or fix those problems in any other way than as a coping mechanism

          • Cody

            In the same way I’ll tell them that their belief or disbelief–and that is their choice–in a god is not a reflection of their character, the way you judge me and surely others based on that. I’ll teach them to judge people based on those person’s actions, who they are, rather than on their beliefs

      • Tami Stillwell

        Lol, all I am saying is that both science and religion require faith, no one knows all the answers. I have faith in religion, I also have faith in science just not as an answer to creation.

        • Robert Daniel

          You are mistaking faith for simply not having arrogant certitude. Faith is by it’s definition a belief in something in absence of proof. Science (the scientific method, reason), by it’s definition, requires the exact opposite of faith – it requires DOUBT and EVIDENCE. Once evidence leads to proof, we must accept the proven claim while remaining open to the possibility that it may yet me modified or disproven (with EVIDENCE) in the future. That is NOT faith.

          • BigTime

            buuuuuuut the big bang is theory….so there’s that.

          • urnotathinkerareu?

            and you sir dont even know the differnce between a common ‘theory” and a “scientific theory”….no wonder the world is in trouble with so many uneducated people running about making wild claims….neanderthals is right.

          • nino korent

            buuuuut. the big bang theory has far more evidence pointing towards it being feasible than the bible theory. 😀

          • Olteanu Marius

            Proofs? I would like some proof? With what instrument are you going to measure that in order to prove the bible adepts wrong ??
            Interesting that you say this to others:”The odds of creation of life are freaking huge”.
            Be careful you may discover that the odds are so rare that an outside intervention is required and then your bashing of bible adepts will be pointless, if not ironical.
            So be sure you’re not “shooting blanks in the dark dude.”
            Let me leave you with the work of a guy named Lee Strobel. He was so sure that he can discoverer something worthwhile. He did. Wasn’t what he expected. Maybe you could use his experience.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqgQ9g2MV_8&t=5s

          • nino korent

            I’m seriously not interested in something a biased christian author had to say or “investigated”. Same thing as guy you posted earlier, he’s not the only scientist to try and look for answers and explanations that god exists – and that’s fine. But they usually have to make some modifications to the standard model that they can’t justify enough or even find the slightest causes to even begin with exploring them.
            You can check out the modified drake equation and read the study that suggest that only in our galaxy the odds of being the only technologically advanced civilization are 1 in 60 billion.
            The article has a link to the actual study so you can read more at http://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/odds-were-only-technologically-advanced-species-universe-are-extremely-low-180958975/#Z3yf3HDuoHYRPPgg.99
            I think that’s going to be all from me on this topic.

          • Olteanu Marius

            If you are “seriously not interested in something a biased christian author had to say or “investigated”” then you should refrain from discussing subjects you are “seriously not interested”. The so called “biased christian author” is a former atheist. This I thought would be interesting to you also, but since he discovered some proofs, he somehow fell off from your level of decent respect. He is now a “biased christian author”.
            Now that says a lot. I still recommend seeing the clip and then forming an opinion as you once said to a guy: “”FYI. Things don’t have to occur in some order, that’s just it.

            The “the only scientist” I’ve mentioned is referring to bogus creation of concepts of Dark matter and Dark energy. He also explains why they did this.
            If scientists “can’t justify enough” why should I take it for granted

            This phrase said it all for me: Arrogance.
            “I don’t pray, nor will I ever pray. I find it to be a waste of time and energy. I’d rather focus on solving the problem than hoping some imaginary being will solve it for me.”

            “Oh, btw. religion truly is the greatest cancer of the world today”

            “Oooh, you again. No, I’m claiming that we don’t know what led to the big bang. Nobody can, with a certainty, tell that there was nothing”

            Conclusion what I think you a trying to say is:
            we don’t know (this is true), but for sure we know that is not what you say it is (you bible-believers), because is the other think I believe in, called big-splash.

            See now I understand we are different religions. And I thought you didn’t believe in anything, but you do.

          • Tami Stillwell

            So the science that we came from apes is proven by having faith in a missing link? or The Big Bang theory can dispute a creator because we have proven that we can create something out of nothing….really? If the above are not proven with evidence then how can you treat as fact, it is theory, speculation lol or faith!

          • urnotathinkerareu?

            we have a common ancestor …really…. You ARE a primate….take a science class or something….do you knwo when so much evidence points in the direction of something we use the method of PROBABILITY….not faith…we have more evidence for evolution than any other science discovery but you knew that right?

          • Sean Royo

            you are the primate, you still think that way despite of you who are right now

          • Tami Stillwell

            Do you really feel that inferior that you have to insult others? We can agree to disagree without insulting other people who have a different opinion. Adaptive evolution, yes, not species cross evolution. A turtle does not grow wings over billions of years, he can adapt to his environment.

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        • Cody

          Thank you for your civil replies; I will follow that example, even if I can’t control the responses of others. However, I must disagree that science requires faith. Below you used evolution as an example, and I implore you invest some research into the biology of our evolution. The “missing link” argument has been invalid for years, and we do have solid and observable proof of our evolution, and fossil evidence of our many ancestors dating way, way back to when we first became bipedal, and beyond. Honestly it’s an amazing thing to learn about; it puts human existence in a new and beautiful perspective. “Believing” in evolution isn’t a matter of faith at all, rather a matter of understanding and accepting scientific findings and facts. And the same goes for the Big Bang. That one is more difficult because it is rooted in theoretical physics, astrophysics, thermodynamics, and the theory of relativity as well as quantum mechanics. However, the evidence of the Big Bang is all around us; we’ve even found remnants of it, providing clues to the age of our universe. It’s amazing stuff. And through all of this, science still doesn’t require faith, it requires never settling for an answer, and perpetually questing for more answers. Faith is belief in something without evidence, which science is not

      • Perspephone

        You made some good points, Cody. Science is a great tool for discovery. Science is the study of verifiable matter. And it is a marvel! But science in itself doesn’t and can’t disprove the existence of God (yes, I am aware of the sophomoric ‘you can’t prove a negative”)

        The Catholic Church, mind you, not only accepts the fruits of science but embraces them.

        It is possible to be open to both spirituality and science.

        • Cody

          Thanks, Persephone. Being scientifically minded, I am absolutely open to both spirituality and science. However, I don’t think theism is compatible. When I hear the argument that science can’t disprove God, I reply with: which God? There are thousands, even more when you go back through history, and most of them have about the same amount of evidence in their favor, and that is usually their own religious text, which doesn’t exactly count. However, I’m also aware that this depends on one’s definition of god. A god of an organized religion can be easily discounted. But the more abstract idea of a god, beyond our own understanding, is much easier to see as a part of the observable and scientifically studied world. But again, it can’t be proven, and has yet to be disproven, even though the “god of the gaps” is fading slowly as science helps us better understand the world

      • Charlie

        The religion (actually it’s a sect) that we know today is not the religion defined by God. People has been misled by the devil all these years that we think everything that we see are what they really are. That;s because we base our conclusions on something that is visible and consider as truth. That’s why we err because we can never be perfect and some of our conclusions are wrong.
        If Adam did not sin, we wouldn’t be living in caves and trees but in Paradise. But since humans chose to disobey God and not entrust their lives to Him, we nee to think for our own welfare and progress because God will no longer do it for us, unless we obey Him. In fact He said that human knowledge will grow and we will be like gods. But He also compared the ‘wisdom of man’ to ‘foolishness of God’, that is, even the wisest man in this planet is no match to God. The reason, God’s wisdom defies logic or science. We can come up with all the formulas we can formulate, but He can disprove that formula in an instant. For example, E=mc2. But if we see someone levitating without doing anything (I’m not saying that it has really happened), that formula would already be proven wrong. In short, if God wills, anything can happen because He is truth and everything He says is truth.

    • Sean Royo

      wink* wink*

  • ulahabubba .

    I have know for decades I do not know anything about God or the universe, but then neither does anyone else.

  • Vedant Rathod

    Well people would say anything but I kinda think that there are many things beyond our understanding.Maybe we will have the Answer to our questions one day but I still think It’s kinda out of our mind thing.Maybe in future Super Computers or Aliens who are much smarter than us may tell us the truth.But As I said before We Probably just can’t know the TRUTH.We are not created that way to understand the TRUTH.

  • Joe R A Wilson

    I agree with him, yet, does he know what comes after this life? Nothing seems…..empty

    • Naiyara Rahman

      It probably is nothingness once we die. When animals die, we don’t expect them to go to heaven or hell.

      The idea of nothingness after death is motivating to me personally. This life is all I have, to do the best I can in my work and behavior, so I can be immortal in history or at least, in the memory of my loved ones.

  • Bruce O Deming

    I think life may be itself and be with others co-creators of existence in a way which we may have forgotten. I am not sure we will have any true understanding of a God unless we understand ourselves better first. That is about the best I can do on this topic. I do believe life continues… for better or worse. Better would be preferable.

  • YnPEHIQeC1

    Steven Hawking does not exist,

    from me God

    • OhNoodlyOne

      Your god isn’t very smart then.

  • http://www.fb.com/PhilippinesRealEstateBroker Don Moral

    THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY, SUPREME BEING WHO IS THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE!

    The Big Bang Theory is NOT a reliable answer or explanation on how the Universe came into being. Science tells us that matter or atom (the smallest/basic particle/unit of matter) is found anywhre in the entire Universe. In the said theory, it claims that there was a BIG explosion that

  • sonofeire

    And how EXACTLY could the universe create itself from nothing? If the universe could create itself from nothing BECAUSE of the law of gravity, how EXACTLY could there even BE a law of gravity BEFORE the universe existed?

    • http://www.fb.com/PhilippinesRealEstateBroker Don Moral

      Abdolutely! If there is nothing, there is NO gravity too! There is even NO vacuum too. Nothing! 🙂

    • James of the Clan MacLaren

      If you read Hawkings’s latest book, he explains it quite well. We couldn’t even form a basis for such a discussion unless you know what and why and where Hawking is coming from.

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    • Dave Adkins

      People always ask how something can come from nothing yet, god would have to come from nothing.

      • Level UP

        Respectfully, God doesn’t have to come from nothing because an infinite and eternal God would be outside of time and space and therefore not subject to our “rules.”

        • Abdul Wahab

          Right.

          • Sean Royo

            right! god is absolute. the beginning and the end, the supreme enjoyer, the annihilator. we are just a tiny speck in the universe, there are billions of beings outside our realm. god can kill you, smile upon you, help you, but people tend to think they are greater than god and god doesnt exists due to their ignorance and false ego

          • Markus C Paine

            I believe we’ve been led up the garden path by historic preachers and dictators and global control groups and general universe mysterious behavior has led some to believe there’s a supreme being.. well that supreme being is the UNIVERSE itself. And we are the result as we are the stars. thats all.

        • Robert R. Wilkinson

          My argument then still stands: ‘God’ is a sadist that deserves no worship for doing nothing to stop the fall of man/lucifer, plus you may as well call him a pedophile god because he must LOVE watching his pwn priests fuck little boys.
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/941cbb8c239de105c0f839950eac467b88511bc2abc94d51a71a066e9cbd0a91.jpg

          • Charlie

            In the olden times before Christ, God Himself watches over His people through His prophets and angels to intervene in their lives. But humans are just stubborn and sinful. They did everything detestable before God instead of obeying Him. The 10 Commandments was laid down to show them their sins and that those guilty deserved to die. So, in the time of Moses, those who disobeyed the Law was immediately judged and executed. Due to our hardheadedness, God does not intervene anymore in our time, whether we do good or bad. Why? We would all die immediately if He did because all of us are sinners. That’s why Christ had to die for us to have redemption. Is it God’s fault why we became sinners? Not at all. We became sinners because He created us with the freedom of choice to be good or bad. Before Adam chose to disobey God and ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, Lucifer had first disobeyed God and rebelled against Him and was the one who tempted Adam and Eve. In effect, we are like Lucifer who think that God is not that powerful and that we are more powerful than Him. That’s the reason why the world is headed to the pits. Because of our arrogance and intransigence, we now question His very existence, His power, wisdom. But since God is all-knowing, He knows how to counter Satan’s plan of taking as many followers as he can. This is now a battle between God and Satan, good and evil. Satan has issued a challenge to God that he can make people follow him instead of God. In a way, he is succeeding as shown by some of the comments here, but it is written and God Himself has given the assurance that evil will never defeat good at the end.
            In short, God allows us to exercise our freedom of choice that’s why He does not intervene. He is concerned with the victims of criminals, but He also wants the criminals to repent and mend their ways. He is concerned about the salvation of ALL people. If He immediately kills the criminal, that’s 1 point for the Devil. In fact, if He killed us all while we sin, nobody would be saved because humans have become sinners and all have sinned. If that’s the case, the Devil would have won. Even a newborn baby has partaken of the sin of its parents and so it can die even before committing sin.

    • OhNoodlyOne

      What’s “nothing”?

    • Abdul Wahab

      Good point!!!!

    • Josephine Bailey
    • urnotathinkerareu?

      How does a Star recreate itself….therin lies your answer

      • Sean Royo

        how to you design a dress, a house, a building or a tower? there must be a designer. so you became a human being from nothing right? tell that to your sons or daughters that they came out of nothing. man you cant win, god is absolute, the supreme enjoyer, the annahilator and creator of everything, if you cant accept that, we respect you, i just pity your ignorant soul

        • Milton Owens

          Until you can offer some proof, would you please keep your ignorant mouth SHUT!

          • Sean Royo

            you are another atheist milton, i pity your soul, again i tell this, don’t have your sons and daughters have a baptism and believe we are primates, and tell them while their young that god does not exist, and teach them them to tell their friends too, try it. you morons are going to win this argument no doubt, because faith is never seen, it’s being felt by the spirit soul, and you devils have none of that

          • Evan Lindsay

            Calling people ignorant and devils does not help your case in the least. One of the key points of most religions is to be tolerant and welcome others into your faith, which doing the previously mentioned will instead only distance you and your faith from others that you can share that faith with.

            The reason why faith is never seen is because it’s based on the concept of belief, meaning that there is no substantial evidence of what that faith is for. So in essence having faith is also being ignorant. But faith and belief are present everywhere, whether it be in religion or science. It takes faith to believe in scientific theories just like it takes faith to believe in religion.

            So as far as I’m concerned your faith in a god doesn’t make you any less ignorant than those that choose to put faith in science, and the same applies for everyone else. And when it comes down to it, your god may only be a figment of your imagination and the big bang theory and other theories as to how the universe was created could be wrong as well. It could very well be that another religion is reality instead, or perhaps numerous religions are reality, or perhaps the big bang theory is correct and gods still exist.

            There is so much unknown and without proof it’s rather asinine to put people down because they choose to have faith in something different from what you put your faith in. Rather than attack, why don’t you try to open your arms and embrace people and show them the good in your faith and beliefs. Of course not everybody is going to be willing to embrace your beliefs over their own, but that doesn’t mean you should change your attitude towards them. Continue to be tolerant, accepting, and welcoming of others.

          • Sean Royo

            I’m sorry evan, i apologise, i guess my emotions got the best of me. i just can’t help people denouncing the existence of a godhead, a creator, the designer of all things, then supreme enjoyer, a higher being that mind cannot fathom..im am sorry to all who i offended about my choice of words and lack of tolerance

          • Evan Lindsay

            That’s the lovely thing about this world, you don’t have to agree with people nor believe in the same things to be respectful and kind to one another. Just because someone says they don’t believe a god exists doesn’t mean they are forcing you to agree, but fact is we can still get along without the need for intolerance.

          • Sean Royo

            i believe you evan. i respect peoples point of view, i just felt offended when people blame god but doesnt believe it exists? it behooves me to say that its the most ironical and idiotic reasoning for a human being

          • Tony Paxton

            We do not blame a god we don’t believe in… we point out the contradiction in the stories… the ideas… of a loving caring god who does not choose to reveal himself to us, yet will punish us in eternal fire if we don’t believe in him. The stories are infantile and childlike, not well thought out, just like all the other myths. If the god you believe in is real, WHY is he so incompetent? Why did he fail so badly to create exactly what he wanted? And why is he going to punish us for the way he created us? These are positions based on the contradictions in the Christian god as proposed by many theists, NOT based on my idea that I think this god is real.

          • Sean Royo

            tony, you are just a speck in this planet, there are billions of planets in the galaxy, and there are billions of galaxies in the universe, and there are billions more universes. god is the creator, the supreme enjoyer, the destroyer, the passionate, if he kills you of show mercy upon your soul, we dont question that. who are you to be so important to god to reveal himself where in the first place you dont believe in a higher authority and a creator. obviously, you do not have FAITH, i respect you though, that is your choice

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            no, your god created NONE of it because your god does not exist

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            How do I blame a brachalian flugelcarb for the failures of man wen a brachalian flugelcarb DOESN’T FUCKING EXIST (insert ‘God’ for ‘brachalian flugelcarb’)?

          • Steve Nichols

            “..you morons are going to win this argument no doubt, because faith is never seen,..”

            The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. Stephen Hawking is stating a concept that is inconceivable to most of us. So are you.

          • Olteanu Marius

            Said the ignorant. Prove to me the creation of life, You know that think that is gone some day and then we call you a dead person and your body goes to nothing again ?

          • Sean Royo

            olteanu, thats very true! salute!

          • Lyn

            Nihilism is not the alternative outcome to something called God and Heaven.

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            There is no ‘God’ as ‘God’ is a title, YAHWEH is his name.

          • Sean Royo

            ..and milton, dont tell me to keep my mouth shut, this is a forum of minds to argue reasons, have a wig or lawn your garden or maybe teach your grandchildren not to believe in god, i guess that will help your old ignorant soul

          • Jesus Garcia

            Sean Royo, you aren’t arguing “reasons”. You’re just repeating “how something come from nothing” and run into the same problem when you bring up your god. Mud man and rib woman story isn’t real.

          • Sean Royo

            you should reflect my friend, or change your first name

          • nino korent

            Goes both ways. If you can’t offer proof, please, keep your theology and beliefs in god to yourselves. 🙂
            BTW, church claimed the earth is flat, but you sure do love internet and global communication the spherical world and scientific achievements offer today, right? 😀

        • Lyn

          Many humans are dillusional Sean. God was created how, by whom/what? I respect peoples belief that it works for them, but certainly not after the work, irrefutable evidence and personal experiences I have had in my life.

          • Sean Royo

            you know what lyn? i just hope and pray that none of your children gets sick and you ask god to smile upon your child. god is absolute, the supreme enjoyer, the sweetest, he is never obliged to you in any way because he is the creator of all, he can do what he pleases. i ask you lyn, in your office, do you follow your boss? yes right. does your boss follow such rules and maybe his/her parents rules? does his or her parents follow rules from their parents? do you read a book and think it came out of nothing? you ride an airplane that came out of nothing? there is a designer. things cant come out of nothing. if you bacteria became primates and the human, and that is something, where do you think bacteria came? out of nothing? then let’s all think that we are nothing, your personal circumstances are not a duty to god, your personal relationship is, let me give you an example, say a king from a country in these times, you follow his rules and orders, you have no say when a judge in a court of law says you are wrong, then who are you to question the highest authority? a car, a house, a building, there is a creator and designer of all things. your ” your irrefutable evidence and personal experiences are not a concern with god, but your relationship is, tell you what, have a breakfast, look at the sky and tell yourself you dont believe in god, try it.

          • James Bauer

            You say God is absolute, but I must ask, which God? There are over 4,000 different religions in the world, so who’s right?

            And the question still stands that has been asked numerous times – who created God? If the universe cannot create itself from nothing, how can God, and if God was always there, than why can’t the universe also be?

            Besides, you can’t say with certainty that “things can’t come from nothing,” because we’ve never had an example of “nothing” to test the theory.

          • Sean Royo

            James, god can manifest in all forms and personalities. he is the supreme enjoyer, he can kill anyone in this world and annihilate any galaxies or the whole universe whenever he pleases, now the premise is, your are a skeptic or an atheist, thats your choice, and i respect that

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            And that right there (god … can kill anyone in this world and annihilate any galaxies or
            the whole universe whenever he pleases …) is why yahweh is the sadist god. You follow a being that is as evil as its antithesis is alleged to be; you, sir, are a blind, fucktarded fool.

          • terry7289

            “god is absolute”?? LOL… the only thing absolute is the fantasies and delusions of humans who invented that god….

          • Doug DeFoe

            If God existed it would a simple matter to prove it. Why allow humans to kill each other the question?? Oh ya, one must have faith.

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            and faith is merely a form of insanity against which medication is still not prescribed https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e2b25e541a006b669fd8686477cb5ee2e9b42012b1b5f62b2d94ddf66e35a88.jpg

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            You can shit in one hand and pray with the other and see which one fills up with empirical evidence of reality first.

        • nino korent

          so you’re claiming everything needs to have a designer?
          Following your arguments, that means your god is just another puppet created by even bigger designer than it. Meaning that greater designer must have the grander designer, and we can go on like this forever? I think that this is enough for every sane person to reject theology, when it offers nothing but answers which can’t be proven and can’t be explained by anything else but “it’s a mistery and you’re too stupid to know it – ever”

          • Sean Royo

            nino, i wont entertain your question, because you talk no sense and your argument is shallow

          • nino korent

            ditto.

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            The argument is not shallow. You have parents, your parents have parents, your parents’ parents’ have parents ad nauseum. Something created your ever special creator (going by the assumption that yahweh exists) because if there was nothing before him, from whence did he come?

          • Nadine Hinshaw

            He always was. No beginning and no end.

          • Nadine Hinshaw

            You are causing me to question my belief in God. True, if he created mankind, then he can do what he wishes with us. Let us experience pain and grief……whatever. Live in hope of seeing our dead loved one again. Dust we are and to dust we shall return. All the Bible stories we have studied and loved, are they mere fiction? When Bible prophecies are seen to be coming to pass, does this bolster our belief? Just trust.

        • Robert R. Wilkinson

          Matter/energy can neither be destroyed nor created. Yahweh breaks his own rules (if god made the universe and physics operates in the universe, then it is a universal law that matter/energy cannot be created nor destroyed) by ‘creating’ matter from nothing.

          And as for your god being that warm, loving, kitty cat god … fucktard, your god made deals with lucifer to destroy the family, property and health of one of yahwe’s most ardent followers. You fucking fucktards think your god is kind? READ YOUR FUCKING BIBLE!

      • http://djgreyeyesgabriel.tumblr.com greyeyesgabriel

        A star is created when the condensed gases of a region of space falls below absolute zero (0°K), it is at this point which ignition occurs and the nuclear fusion process begins; once the star sheds the expended layers of burnt gases the star may explode giving birth to new matter, implode becoming a black hole redistributing matter, evolve into a different type of star, or just burn out.

      • terry7289

        and since you don’t know the answer you invent a god and pretend that’s the answer? LOL….

    • Sean Royo

      sonofrie, these atheist are thinking that they are only material beings, a pity. the time of their deaths, i hope god smile at them and show mercy

      • Uku Sibul

        I hope you suffer in dissappointment on your death bed when you can’t see a light

        • Sean Royo

          suffer after death? that means youre telling me theres an afterlife right???? now all of you idiots are contradicting yourselves ahahahahaha

          • swampfox26

            Uku said “on your deathbed” He said nothing about an afterlife so no contradiction there.

        • Olteanu Marius

          Don’t be a looser. Try it, There’s a firs in everything.

        • Sean Royo

          uku, you said you hope i suffer after my death, what a comment man, you hope me to suffer???? instead of supporting another human being, you choose to hate and curse and wish people to suffer. that says a lot about your personality and soul, what kind of people are you?

      • sunil

        Sean, God as a Third party is man-made. This is the biggest threat the world is now facing. I ca n put it across this way. I, U and that ‘GOD’ are not three but ONE. In other words divinity is everywhere in and around you. Happy?

      • nino korent

        I just hope you realize that this material world is all there is sooner than later, because then you might focus more on stuff that matter here and stop deluding yourself with “I’m going to make it up on a magical place called heaven where everything’s fine and dandy”

      • terry7289

        sorry to break it to you, but your god is a man-made myth…(as is your devil….) a fantasy and fairy tale.. sorry to disappoint you
        (if I’m wrong prove it…..)

        • Sean Royo

          you lack argument and reasoning terry, a fairy tale???? we are talking about god’s existence or non-existence and you comment about fairy tales???? and yes, you disappoint me too. again i ask all of of you atheist to not have have your sons and daughters have a baptism, not believe in god and teach them to tell all their friends that god doesnt exist, that your son or daughter was created out of nothing and became something, teach them your theory so that this tiny little speck of a planet will believe that we are all nothing. the one thing i pity about you atheist is that you always want a scientific PROOF, when man’s scientific logic and knowledge doesnt even prove anything???? you disprove god’s existence and yet you cant even define that nothing became something. i ask you terry, today, tell your children or your friends if you have one that we are something from nothing, that our purpose in life is to suffer, enjoy, get rich, be poor, have children and the cycle goes on, please preach that to everyone you see. i am quite sure you voted for a senator, your mayor, a congressman in your state that believes in god and why???? because he/she is higher than you, gives you welfare, good laws and protects your well being as a citizen, and you question the highest authority????

        • Robert R. Wilkinson
      • Dennis Freeland

        Sorry to break it to you – but without a theistic epistemic basis that even COULD posit the existence of a deity – BY DEFINITION YOU CANNOT HAVE EVIDENCE FOR A GOD ! !

        Yes read that again – not only ISN’T there evidence for a deity – but, as above, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have evidence !!

        I wonder why there are so many atheists ?

        • Jay Eisenhardt

          So you are saying “If there were no God, there would be no atheists”

          • Dennis Freeland

            What ? In the absence of evidence for a deity there are atheists – whether one exists or not.

            The only reason that the term exists is because of theism. If a powerful group of people insisted that there were a rainbow colored unicorn on the far side of pluto – and we all had to pay taxes to support “unicornism”, in the absence of any evidence there would be a large group of people (probably) calling themselves aunicornists.

            As soon as you try to force ANY belief on people – without evidence – you will have another group rejecting the claim. If you want to stop having people calling themselves “atheists” you can :
            a) Identify an epistemic basis for theism, and THEN demonstrate the corresponding evidence, OR (easier)
            b) Stop making claims about deities.If no one is pushing a deity – there won’t be any need to reject it.

    • Steven Hill (Steve)

      Oh, so you know how the Universe was formed? Please share with us your theory, and see if you can do it without laughing.

      • Jesus Garcia

        sounds a lot better than the mud man and rib woman theory billions believe.

        • terry7289

          EXACTLY………

      • terry7289

        I’m sure he’s written plenty about it… as have other scientists… scientists do know how the universe was formed…. you can read up on it…..

    • Jad Madani

      Says who there is anything called creation from nothing? Do you have a prove of the nothingness? Can you prove that anything in this universe has been created out of nothing? What if this universe is all what there is and it has been and will always be? The mere naive question of “how something is created from nothing” assumes a too much to be asked.

      • http://djgreyeyesgabriel.tumblr.com greyeyesgabriel

        π^0=1, here is your evidence of the nothingness which is the something of the infinite/eternal zero point energy of God.

        • Jad Madani

          LoL this exactly like explaining illusion with another.

        • Robert R. Wilkinson

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a136a868f49338d069d5f3b278b6ce26facf41b4c0688196e6289001dca2d90.png

          Do you even know what ‘proof’ means at this point?

          It means PHYSICAL evidence, like that glove in the OJ trial.

        • Marshall Shelswell

          Once you have an outer body experience you will realize eternal life is real…. God hides because God knows how scary it is to the rest of you…. Been chilling with God since 2009….Its a force that controls everything… doesnt have to be holy or evil…can be both but it can change its ways.

      • nino korent

        there isn’t exactly “nothing”. Currently we can’t know what was happening before the point of critical mass that caused the big bang, but you can’t claim that this was gods doing because you have zero proof for it (nor the other way around). So at the moment you can just guess what happened based on the evidence we do have, but either way, sticking to an universal explanation that was written by hundreds of people you don’t know even existed at the time they thought the earth was a flat board just says enough about your scientific understanding of the world around you 😀

        • zaneirth

          Well for all we know this all that we are and everything that is could be a science experiment.

          • nino korent

            True, and this could all be a simulation. Which would really be a bummer

          • Sean Royo

            supposing the simulation idea is right, again you contradict yourself, if there is a simulation of everything, there must be a designer of the simulation and who is it? you have no idea right? i just hope your parents are atheist too because if not they will be sorry to have a son like you

          • nino korent

            We were discussing that we don’t know! And I’m telling you that you, as well, can’t know for certain such answers for now. But you keep insisting that “god is the answer”.
            In this particular case, if it were true, there might be a creator of the simulation – whatever it may be. But that’s just it, even if it were – in this case we will never know an answer to that question. What happens if there’s an error in simulation or it just stops its cycle? Everything we know will just stop, our universe would come to an halt and just vanish. But that contradicts your beliefs in “soul” and idea you propose that “if you serve that authority, you’ll live forever by his side after you die” – because if you are a part of the simulation the creator really doesn’t care much about you. It cares as much as I do about any program I run and rerun on every iteration.
            Also, either have a civil argument with some actual basis or opinion and we’ll talk, if not I’ll just stop replying. I don’t have the patience to comment back and forth with you when every 2nd comment you make is condescending and based on nothing but how you feel people should think.

          • Sean Royo

            respect you nino, and frankly, i am tired of arguing my reasons and hearing yours. i will let you get the last say that god doesnt exist, god doesnt exist, tell that to your children or a relative or friend today okay?

          • nino korent

            I’m not arguing my reasons with you, I’m stating simple facts or asking you questions which seem to rile you up because they’re not aligned with your beliefs. I guess this is where we part ways then? 😀

          • Jay Eisenhardt

            ” the creator really doesn’t care much about you. It cares as much as I do” because he considers himself an equal to an omnipotent being thus his feelings would be Gods feelings. You cannot imagine with a mind so limited and closed.

        • Sean Royo

          there isnt exactly nothing???? ahahahah!!!!! so you cant prove ” nothing” and youre here typing your reasoning, you read a book that was written by someone or something, scientists proved in the 70’s that anti matter exists, and where do you think it came from? nothing, we existed from nothing? everything came from nothing into something???? a movie was made, a research was made, a tower was made, your was made, you are made and you argue that we came from nothing and dont even reason your proof???? dinosaurs, the ancient civilizations and it came from nothing? i just cant fathom you that you think we came from nothing and be something? why do you go to college? you want to be something right, you cant be something from nothing? you have to study and graduate, and your teachers will decide that, you cant be a judge or a doctor w/o passing the exams, there is a designer of all things and process, a creator. happy monday nino

          • nino korent

            Oooh, you again. No, I’m claiming that we don’t know what led to the big bang. Nobody can, with a certainty, tell that there was nothing. At the moment it’s thought to be nothing, but there surely is something we’re missing and have yet to learn to understand what happened before the process called the big bang. Next time, at least try to understand what I wrote before you make an argument.
            Also, you once again mention the great designer but you will once again stay quite on my next question.
            Who designed your designer then? Is he the product of nothing? Do you have proof of your designer existing?
            FYI. Things don’t have to occur in some order, that’s just it. We and everything around us exists because laws of nature caused certain reactions that led the universe to state where it is now. We just don’t understand every aspect of it yet.

          • Sean Royo

            nino, do you understand the word “omnipotent” the alpha and the omega, the all powerful, the unborn, the supreme enjoyer and destroyer of everything and you argue that “something is missing” and have yet to understand what your arguing for, ” something is missing” then why do you argue with something you dont even understand????

          • Robert R. Wilkinson

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/402bfa5fd4acb4cc7ceaff30e3ffd961bebf0d76a2db9e13ebc0a02cf760de4c.jpg

            Now, mind you, IF yahweh was real, then he is the LOUSIEST human friendly deity out there.

            Picture it: You have the foresight (omniscience) to know that 9-11 is going to happen; you have the power (omnipotence) to stop it from happening. If you let it happen, what kind of being are you?

            Ergo, yahweh doing JACK FUCK ALL to stop the fall of Lucifer/Man means tat yahweh is either FICTIONAL, or a sadist of a supreme nature and does not deserve worship. In fact, with al of yahweh’s transgressions against his own creations, he sounds a LOT worse tan your idea of Satan.

          • Olteanu Marius

            I really meant to go to sleep now, but I have seen one reply from you that is honest and confusing at the same time. You say:
            “We just don’t understand every aspect of it yet.”, but you tend to give the illusion you know when you try to receive an “I don’t know” answer by asking “Who designed your designer then? Is he the product of nothing? Do you have proof of your designer existing?”
            Some people have met with God, the majority are dead. We haven’t met Him (Yet)
            My point is that the Creator is eternal. No beginning and no end. It is not a true God if it created by somebody else. If time and space scale is something that controls Him. He must be above all of this.
            Also it is very interesting to hear this argument, again and again, coming from atheists, that have no issue with the statement that they themselves believe are not created by something, but seem to not apply same possibility onto GOD.
            They say GOD had to be created. This is bias thinking.
            Good night.

          • nino korent

            You posted this video already and he’s a christian author – he declares himself as one. So no, not job well done because this is just a writer that did some travelling and asked some questions which have no scientific value.
            I’m just tired of presenting arguments with people like you, when there’s something like you just commented offered as a counter argument. There’s just no point to it.

    • Lyn

      Who, how and what created a God?

      • http://djgreyeyesgabriel.tumblr.com greyeyesgabriel

        Energy cannot be created not destroyed, it is infinite/eternal in nature; all energy merely recycles and transcends forms (water, ice, steam), all matter stems from the same zero point energy source which exists as nothing yet creates the all of something. You are merely light particles condensed and shaped by resonant frequencies, the matter of you is determined by a DNA software code coiled according to Pi within every cell of your body; yet the infinite energy of your soul cannot die, you are as infinite as your creator, the entire universe is alive.

        • sunil

          Perfect Sister..

        • nino korent

          you just said it. “You are merely light particles condensed and shaped by resonant frequencies, the matter of you is determined by a DNA software code coiled according to Pi within every cell of your body”.
          There is no “soul”. I find it sad that people can’t accept the fact that they’ll just stop existing and won’t be aware of the fact that they died one day and need something to hold on to because they want to live forever in some sort.

          • Sean Royo

            you are really the biggest fool here in this forum nino. explain to me why people dont kill themselves and their children from suffering, and why dont you kill yourself to end your suffering in this world. you work 9-5, cook for your family, put food on the table, have children, die. so that’s how you think your purpose is right, so as your future sons and daughters will replicate what you are teaching them…the same cycle goes on and on, is that what you really want? instead of finding your purpose in your life? people like you will experience birth and life forever whether a cockroach, a maggot or nature permitting, be a human again after your death in this lifetime and hopefully learn your position. you are not the enjoyer, you are a servant. you gotta serve somebody, your parents, the government, your taxes, a judge, your boss, a king etc..and yet you deny to serve the highest authority. you have a materialistic mind and so you are constrained to ignorance and false ego and question god.

          • nino korent

            oh sorry, did my opinion hurt your feelings and you instantly reach for an argument “why don’t anyone kill themselves” and call me a fool? Typical, not once have I saw anything else coming from a believer. As far as I’m concerned, you’re just another tool from the internet who enjoys the values science and human achievement got him, but at the same time chooses to be ignorant about it and proclaim god had this planned all along.
            To shatter your self righteousness and sense of entitlement how other people should live their lives (like every other religious fanatic I’ve came across feels the same), let me clarify: I’m not serving anyone but myself and those whom I care about in this lifetime. The purpose of life as I see it is to enjoy it, have fun and take life itself as an adventure. In my point of view, people like you who are waiting something “greater around the corner” because some imaginary friend will rescue you and make you eternal because they were playing slaves to some idea is exactly what makes you the fool. Also, since you’re so shackled by the idea of having to serve someone you also have no idea what else is there to teach young people but “to serve, put food on the table and repeat the cycle” which is really sad on so many levels. You could try and teach them to be aware of their self worth, entice them to explore, to learn and to challenge the borders of known! Be a contributing member of family or entire human kind. People who claim they should behave in a certain manner and do certain things just because that guarantees some sort of “rescue in the next life” are those who I consider truly lost because those are your own shackles and you are limited by them. Enjoy being bound, enjoy being a servant of some kind, enjoy your life full of borders. Enjoy your ignorance 😀

          • Sean Royo

            i was born a catholic nino, however i am not a fanatic, frankly, i dont believe in religions though i respect them, i am not self righteous as you pointed out, and i dont care or give a rats ass how you deal with you or with everyones lives, and self entitlement???? what am i a king or a prince? i am simply bound to raise my belief and reasoning no matter if no one believes in them because i am offended with people talking about the non existence of a higher authority. now i challenge you, if you have children or maybe future childrens, tell them that we came from nothing and we just evolve as primates to human beings, now if your sons and daughters ask why are there monkeys and primates not being humans today, explain your freaking science. science is man, his tiny speck of reasoning questioning the existence of god. science has never proven the big bang theory 100%, the supernovas, dark matter and dark energy, and you and your atheist friends say that it came from nothing???? something came out of nothing? you die, and suddenly your nothing? you say, ” The purpose of life as I see it is to enjoy it, have fun and take life itself as an adventure.” that is your biggest ignorant thinking, you see yourself as an enjoyer in this material planet, you see yourself as a ruler of your life, so i tell ask you, i reckon that if you believe in nothingness and we all human beings die as nothing again, then why live? you work, enjoy, live lfe as an adventure???? you think life is a game you control? adventure???? when your time is up, i to think that your your children laugh, and say oh it’s okay, he came from nothing and he is nothing again, and the cycle goes on and on, i hope you dont teach your chidren in your lifetime your false pride and ego, be humble my friend and god smile upon your soul, oh yes, you dont believe there is a spirit soul right? please tell your future children not to believe in god and tell them to tell their friends in school so you can perpetuate your legions of atheist and make this world better

          • nino korent

            After reading this: “now if your sons and daughters ask why are there monkeys and primates not being humans today, explain your freaking science.”
            I’m just gonna drop this because this clearly shows what level you’re on 😀
            Oh, btw. religion truly is the greatest cancer of the world today.

          • Robert R. Wilkinson
          • Charlie

            Before Christ came, God punished people and nations through his prophets. After Christ died, God left everything (judgment, redemption, etc) to His Son. He no longer intervenes. On the other hand, Christ allowed us sinners to repent from our wicked ways. Even pedophiles are given the chance to repent. Now, if you are a pedophile and continue to molest children, time will come that you will eventually get caught. Then and only then will you come to realize that there is a God who watches over your actions, be they good or evil. If you are living a life of sin, chances are, you will die sinning for which there is no redemption. But if you believe in God and have faith in Him, you would do good and not intentionally commit sin. He does not intervene when you molest someone to give you a chance to repent. That’s why it’s important that we always ask for forgiveness for the sins that we have committed unintentionally so that we won’t die in sin. For God will never fail to forgive us if we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness. He expects us to forgive those who have sinned against us 490 times. This means that He can forgive us more than 490 times, even a million times, in our lifetime, because He is far greater than us. We can expect forgiveness even until the day we die.

          • one of those guys

            So you are saying that the victim of molestation is supposed to forgive? Even though their lives are forever changed? Where then is your god that “made” a worm whos sole purpose is to bore into childrens eyes and blind them? Let me guess their blindness is a blessing in disguise? How can you be so pious as to say it is the victims duty to forgive someone that is harmed by others? Do you not see the flaw in your thinking? Lets talk about religion, or is your cop out that you arent religious but spiritual? In the 1300″s a pope claimed dominion over every living thing on the planet. Isnt owning others a sin? Yet Unam Sanctum is still a thing. From womb to tomb we are bound by others, and it is all your GOD’s plan? Keep droinkin the kool aid…

          • Charlie

            I’m not saying the victim is supposed to forgive. That’s only possible if the molester himself asked for forgiveness from her. But even if the girl would not forgive him after asking for it after getting caught and penalized legally, he would still have the chance to be forgiven by God as long as he repented and renew his ways. Forgiving here 490 times applies to the offender, not the girl. You see, if the molester cannot forgive those who have sinned against him, God cannot forgive his sins as well. Read the parable of the master and his servant. It’s also contained in the Our Father who art in heaven… forgive us our sins as we forgive those who have sinned against us’ prayer.

            As to the victim of molestation, she can forgive the molester if he asked for her forgiveness. Then, God will also forgive her sins (if any in her lifetime) according to the prayer. It’s her choice (and ours) to forgive those who have sinned against us.

            Your reading comprehension is terrible because you missed the context of my comment. There is no flaw in my thinking because I’m just quoting Jesus in the Bible. And by the way, I’m not Catholic so I don’t believe in the pope.

          • Lou Paul

            If you want to argue why dont you at least come up with something original. This is discussion about creator. What makes you think if there is one he has all the qualities you assume. You basically a creator would create a magic place for his human creations. That is just a ridiculous assumption you are making. A creator would have his own ideas what he is creating and you would have no idea what they are. You know the religious people’s idea of good and bad etc isnt the only notion of a creator. Yo seemt o think a creator has to fit the definition of the religious people.

          • one of those guys

            Did you not notice my reply was to someone talking about religion? And why or how are you so quick to call me unoriginal? Do you believe you have ever had an original thought? Nothing new under the sun, unless of course you have a patent. And might you specify what about my comment was a ludicrous assumption?

          • Charlie

            We are all sinners and we will have sinned one way or another in our lifetime. God has not created sin but He gave humans the ability to know right from wrong (when Adam disobeyed God by eating the fruit of knowledge) and the freedom to choose between good and evil. In short, forgiveness for our sins does not come from the offended person but from God Himself. Humans can forgive but it does not absolve the sinner from his sins. Just like a killer who killed a person. The mother of the victim may forgive the killer but the person would still be accountable for the killing and still be punished by the state. Otherwise, everybody would not be afraid to kill.
            Therefore, the victim of molestation may choose to forgive the offender (if he asked for her forgiveness) so that God will also forgive the sins she has and will be committing throughout her lifetime. On the other hand, the offender may continue sinning, or repent and mend his ways. He has a chance to be forgiven if he will change for the better. One way for us to gain forgiveness according to Christ, is by forgiving those who have sinned against us.

          • charlesfee

            BECAUSE as GOD he CAN’T intervene, or THE GUILTY would NEVER BE GUILTY. HIS rules, not mine. (WE know you realize this – that you won’t admit it in the discussion tells us all we really need to know). The VICTIM will testify of the guilty at final judgement, but THAT won’t make any substantive difference in THIS conversation. To keep it short – YOU would have a world where the good AND THE BAD, the pure AND the guilty would be forever the same, forever victims of a loss of THEIR OWN MORAL AGENCY. That you’re ignorant of SO MUCH that comes AFTER the last period in the last sentence of a story like the one above, through which you try to cement your point, is REALLY not your fault. We understand. That you CHOOSE to remain guilty of that ignorance _IS_, however. The penalty for ignorance is ALWAYS and utterly without exception – EXPERIENCE. The opposite of course, is overcoming one’s own ignorance on a journey to wisdom (passing THROUGH and leaving LOGIC far in the distance). Still, tho, even THAT doesn’t compel a decision, whether its what do do with the newly acquired insight, or , for instance in the case of the graphic you used HERE, the GUILTY remaining ignorant UNTIL FACED with the CONSEQUENCES of their actions. If there were no evil, there would be no freedom to overcome that evil. With no guilt THERE IS NO GOOD. With no VILLAINY, no HEROISM. But such simple LOGIC is almost completely LOST on the self-styled “superiority” of the atheist – in ANY age. Wanna go to the EVIL of atheism ? I can take you there. Wanna go instead to the utter dishonesty ? I can take you to the mat on THAT one, too. No, its NOT worth it, and far to extensive for a discussion here. Suffice it to say – the FIRST step on the path to Wisdom is humility. That such a concept is SO foreign is for YOU to overcome. I hope you’re successful, but its really UP TO YOU as to how YOU will decide to apply YOUR Moral Agency. Best to you and yours – C.

          • Robin Lloyd

            Well said.

          • AndyD

            Can’t intervene huh…..”thoughts and prayers”

          • pillar610

            There are no guilty, we are the Universe experiencing itself. We are this. Now.

          • drhoward
          • pillar610

            You are giving human characteristics to God, the word is a concept and limited by religion. Can you think of the word God as the impersonal energy field that started creation. Manifested in order to experience itself. That continues to grow and develop just like the human race. That is all things,

          • charlesfee

            have I seen. And yes there _CAN_ be far more from a believer who KNOWS what he believes, HOW IT WORKS and WHY – the ULTIMATE question that evades ANY ATHEIST. EVIDENCE ? Look at how quickly AND COMPLETELY you avoided THAT part of his reply. You’re welcome.

          • nino korent

            Let me stop you right after your second sentence.
            “And yes there _CAN_ be far more from a believer who KNOWS what he believes, HOW IT WORKS and WHY”.
            If you know how something works it means you can test it and prove it. Thus it becomes factual and is no longer belief (or faith or religion). And I tend to ignore parts of comments that make no sense at all. Like I did with yours. So, you were saying?

          • Robert R. Wilkinson
          • XaurreauX

            Uh, oh! Someone’s touched a nerve!

          • Vijay Bhagwat

            Wow, very cool explanation. I like it.👍👍

          • WolfgangDS

            Even if your God is real, that doesn’t mean purpose and morality are concrete concepts. If anything, it means that they are arbitrary and meaningless.

            Let me put it to you this way: Does God assign purpose on a whim, or does he have reasons for the purposes he assigns? If the former, then “purpose” is meaningless and we can make it up ourselves. God is just a self-exalted middleman. But if he has reasons for assigning purpose, then purpose itself exists independent of God. Once again, he’s nothing more than a middleman, and he has no more authority than you or I. He only CLAIMS to have it, and his best defenses for that claim are, “I made everything, so it’s mine,” and “I’m more powerful than you, so do what I say or burn.”

            The same can be said of morality. No matter what, we don’t need God to find these things.

          • Sean Royo

            you say this ” God is just a self-exalted middleman. But if he has reasons for assigning purpose, then purpose itself exists independent of God. Once again, he’s nothing more than a middleman, and he has no more authority than you or I. He only CLAIMS to have it, and his best defenses for that claim are, “I made everything, so it’s mine,” and “I’m more powerful than you, so do what I say or burn.” brother your out of wits! and your argument is this and you don’t believe in god and yet you blame the supreme being??? same shit atheist

          • King Lapeoh

            My God Almighty knew his ideology from the beginning so made him to be wheelchair bound. Just image if he was not wheelchair bound, he could have done so much KOs in this world we live in today. Praise be to God. God knows who each individual being before being birthed into this world to take charge. Peach and God bless.

          • zaneirth

            Because if there is nothing after death then there is only one point to life.. seeking immortality.

          • nino korent

            I can agree to that, but I’d say that’s probably a collective goal rather than a singular objective.

          • Rick

            Actually, the point is to control the power of the universe (at this point we have only learned how to control a portion of our environment). Immortality may be a by-product of that.

          • Jack Helliquinn

            Have you died before? Hundreds of years ago we “knew” the earth was the center of the universe. thousands of years ago we “knew” The earth was flat. Think about what we will know tomorrow.
            Humans conception is limited, and for some reason we can’t seam to conceive that. Every answer only creates more questions. Always how and never why.

          • charlesfee

            Which has nothing to do with creation. AS “energy”, we are ALSO creations of the Creator of that energy. What you’re really asking is WHY ! Realize that even AS ENERGY we ARE the Universe’s way of being AWARE of itself. As STARDUST we are LITERALLY the UNIVERSE ! NOW if you are SO CONVINCED of your own superiority as an “atheist” just try running the numbers, not ONLY in terms of “Goldilocks zones”, but Galactic radiation patterns, odds against accidental creation, odds against the accidental creation of DNA, _ANY_ONE_ of these (and there are THOUSANDS MORE) would odds-on be against those odds at a higher rate than the entire number of particles in the known universe, EVEN INCLUDING Dark matter/energy. So, atheists, don’t be SO certain of your own superiority, don’t be SO TIGHTLY wedded to your faith. EVERY age of MAN has suffered the VERY SAME FALL for the VERY SAME REASON.

          • nino korent

            What the hell are you on about?
            The odds of creation of life are freaking huge, it’s the rule of big numbers dude. Check your facts before making shit up. Just google some of the articles and studies on the matter.
            Here’s one for example. https://www.space.com/32793-intelligent-alien-life-probability-high.html
            pointing to a study, you also have equation on which you can estimate how many intelligent civilizations there probably was taking into consideration all the known facts. You’re really shooting blanks in the dark dude.

          • Rick

            Why is not possible for a soul to be a product of the combination of light, frequency, DNA, etc.?

          • nino korent

            because those are all empirically proven and testable measures – meaning if it were a combination of those things it could as well be proven and measured. Being unable to do that disproves that statement. Not to mention the definition of the “soul” in biblical terms isn’t even defined properly and thus a proper hypothesis can’t be even formed let alone tested – but if it were defined by something tangible and measurable it could be proven.

          • pillar610

            We have a memory, scientists now are saying consciousness according to quantum theory is not originated by the mind . Consciousness is a field which forms nodes in the human body when born. So the field by it’s very existence would retain all experience. This is a kind of God, which the word is a concept, and yes we exist in some form after death, death is also a concept, we don’t die, we weren’t even born, we temporarily take up residence in a body and return to the field. In essence all is one intelligent, loving, energetic presence which keeps manifesting itself over and over in all life and objects. We are the ONE.

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            You sound stupid. You find it sad people can’t accept your way of thinking? You must have some physical proof that no one has a soul? No? You don’t? I find it sad when people think they know something but can’t provide evidence-based facts. I could say something like when cats die, if they haven’t spent all 9 lives, they come back as a new cat. You have no evidence to prove me wrong therefore its really sad that you can’t accept my way of thinking.

          • nino korent

            I sound stupid, but you suggest that you can’t prove a cat doesn’t die when it dies? You know, if you even suggest that and then put that to a test – let’s say you take a new born cat and then kill it – it will surely die. Therefor your theory fails and isn’t correct. That’s the same way it works with everything else.
            So, if you claim that you DO have a soul, you either have to prove that or accept the fact that you can’t and therefor it doesn’t exist. Absence of proof is the foundation of religion and thus in it’s definition admits that it’s not factual and can’t be proven – but if you can’t prove the existence of something, then it simply doesn’t exist (if it would, you could prove it). Also, if you read carefully what I said you’ll see I sad that I find it sad that some people can’t accept the facts. It’s not “my way of thinking” that needs to be accepted, nor do I want that.

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            Wow. You sound even dumber now. I never said that if that cat dies that you can’t prove that hat cat is dead. See? Now you’re not even reading, you’re just blabbing. I said the cat will come back as a new cat. I will be born into Earth from a new cat mother and father. This is why people like you shouldn’t be allowed opinions. Just because you have one doesn’t mean you’re right. Just like you can’t physically prove if someone has a soul. I’m open to the idea that humans have no souls, but I’m not a dipshit and I’m not going to find 1 THEORY and run with it and assume myself in a higher state of thinking than others. Because its sad to see stupid people assume a position of intelligence.

          • nino korent

            Okay, so I misunderstood what you said. But yeah, people shouldn’t be allowed opinions. I’m not even gonna bother replying to you after this because I see what kind of self entitled egoistic person you are 😀 No point in having a civil argument with someone who doesn’t even value opinion that’s different from their own and instead wants to oppress it or wants to ban it. That exact behavior is what should be banned and that’s what dark ages were all about – learn something from that.

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            Oh, if it’s a CIVIL argument you wanted then you did a great job showing it by making yourself look superior with a few of your comments. If you wanted a civil argument then you should have laid out your points and reasons to why you’re right without making others look wrong or dumb for believing what they believe. I’m sorry if you feel that way, but you had no basis to set-up civil arguments. If you wanted that then edit your first post to seem more welcoming for intelligent, civil arguments.

          • nino korent

            Let me get this straight. It’s okay for you to bash me and say I’m stupid, dipshit and dumb just because you don’t agree with my point of view and then you have the nerve to tell me what’s welcoming for intelligent civil arguments? I don’t know why I even bother replying.

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            No, what Imsaying is if you wanted civil you would have been civil. Stop reading partial and read full please

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            And lets get something straight. I don’t agree with you saying you think its sad when people don’t want to accept yours and others theories. Just like I find it sad when someone can’t read a full sentence or I find it sad when someone reads one thing but absorbs something completely different. In other words, if you wanted civil arguments than your post would have been more welcoming to the opposing side. In a debate you don’t tell your opposers you think lower of them for their opinion, you lay out your facts and evidence and you wait for the opposing side to either lay out their reasons to convince you to change your state of current thinking or they lay out a few reasons and they make no sense or are irrelevant or don’t take priority or w/e reasons. By saying you think the opposing team is sad for believing their beliefs you’re welcoming the opposing team to retaliate in the same manor. You brought it upon yourself to openly be called an idiot when you said that. So, like I said, if you WERE welcoming intellectual, civil arguments than you chose the wrong path of doing so. If you’re going to unsubscribe because of your own doings than that’s all you buddy.

          • Vagatorro

            You,guys,get a room.

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            Also~ saying that I have a soul needs proof? Well, then prove to me I don’t have a soul. Things happen on levels humans barely understand. Ie; quantum entanglement. We can prove that particles and atoms communicate and once they communicate in just the right way, they will both do everything exact as the other all instantly. If I removed a neutron from an 1 atom, if entangled, the other 1 will naturally remove itself at the same exact time as the other. Not only that, distance isn’t a factor, either. 2 particles on opposite sides of the universe are communicating instantly. We understand atoms do this, we don’t understand why. Our puny monkey brains are too stupid to understand everything.

          • nino korent

            Read my above comment and let me leave you with this. The one who claims something EXISTS that’s not obvious, no evidence or cause – effect relationships exist, has the burden of proof upon him to prove what he claims to be true. Not the other way around. For instance, if you claim the soul exists, it is upon you to prove everyone else who doesn’t believe you, with undeniable facts, that you are right and everyone else isn’t. That’s how science works, that’s how world around us works and that’s how civilization advances. Regarding the “we don’t understand why” – that’s the thing, there will always be something we don’t understand. Few hundred years ago it was electricity, today it’s black holes, time travel and dark matter, tomorrow who knows. But that’s it from me, towards you, I’m not gonna bother replying anymore to you 😀

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            There you go! That’s more welcoming. That makes me read it and go woah,this guy has something smart to say. And yes, having no basis for your beliefs IS the one who needs proof. And, honestly, I agree with this whole post as well as some of your earlier points. I, personally, don’t quite believe in religions and their ways of explaining “God, souls and the afterlife”. None of what they say fits into today’s science or culture. But I do have faith that some form of higher power exists whether it be God himself or just as simple as the universe is God. I have no proof, but this is also why language invented the word “faith”. To believe in something even if all odds goes against it.

          • Justin Ryan Pulford

            On this note, whose to say my soul isn’t quantumly entangled to my atoms? If there is a heaven, let’s assume my soul resides there, or on some form of existence, you’d NEVER be able to find my soul. Because with quantum entanglement, my soul can be placed literally anywhere and it would still be connected to my person.

          • Tsetse Mbatha

            Can you prove that the surface of the sun is hot ?

          • nino korent

            Me directly? No, because I don’t have the instruments to make that experiment myself.
            But, others have done it and explained it in detail. You can read stuff like that usually like http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/49-our-solar-system/the-sun/general-questions/166-is-it-possible-to-measure-the-temperature-of-the-sun-beginner
            I don’t get it, what exactly is your goal here with this question?

          • Tsetse Mbatha

            Mhmmm, it is pointless for me to try and make you understand how I view things . We come from different environments and I dont think any large amount of reasoning can make you understand my point. I respect your belief system, you being a person of proving things I guess death should be an experiment for you. Too bad you wont make it back to state your theory.

          • Vagatorro

            The task of providing a …proof for the existence of a “soul” (or God or afterlife or…) lies with the believers…

          • http://hotporn.comon Kyrie Eleison

            you can proove the existence of your umbrella,and your shoes.Things.The soul is not a thing.Therefor us,living in a world of things,can never find the soul.You have to look beyond to find the soul,and it can be very scary in the world of NoTHING.

          • Vagatorro

            We can prove the existence of the brain,the conciousness,even the mind if you want.Of madness,lust,envy and greed.These are not “things”.But soul?It’s like they say “he’s got a good heart”…For many,many years people thought that we think and feel from the heart.Listen,it’s mostly words for me,I like to be precise.Two centuries of science can’t beat two thousand years of mythology.Yet.

          • http://hotporn.comon Kyrie Eleison

            The science of today will be the mythology of tomorrow.Time is of the essence.

          • Tsetse Mbatha

            Its so sad that you expect us to believe your way of thinking yet your assumption is based on a human-made scientific theory. Rather say you dont have a soul and dont tell us about what happens to a dead person unless you have died before.

          • nino korent

            I don’t expect anyone to believe my way of thinking, nor do I want that. I could be wrong and believing in something I said without providing clear facts is just making another cult of believers and that leads us nowhere. I’m not sure tho to what comment you’re referencing, but if it is to the one directly above yours then I have to say you’ve missed the target by a mile 😀

        • Danielle

          Exactly ^^

        • Sean Royo

          salute greyeyesgabriel!

        • Asim Ch

          IN SHORT YOU ARE A COMPLETE UNIVERSE BUT ACTING LIKE A HUMAN FOR A SHORT TIME!

        • Jacob Kilbertson Zuttah

          This is true based on our present understanding of the Universe

      • Jennifer

        MAN created God!!! Simple as that!

        • Dan Walker

          The only sense made ever on the internet

      • Olteanu Marius

        If you are an atheist and I ask you “Who created you?” you will say “nobody”.
        So you can consider that only you have this power.
        This is very hard to grasp the concept that some things/beings, call them how you want, are perpetual and eternal, not bound by time and space.
        It is amazing to see that adepts of big-bang theory can believe that the whole universe at some point just emerged from nothing, yet are avoiding the concept of creation.
        As I have said before, a created GOD is not a TRUE GOD.
        A God that is bound by laws of time and space is not a true God.
        Bye.

      • per_aksel_jensen

        politicians

      • Jack Helliquinn

        Existence either you believe it’s intelligent “God” or you believe it’s not “Atheism”
        We exist so existence clearly does. Existence clearly is organized we barley exist in millions of different ways.

      • http://hotporn.comon Kyrie Eleison

        Imagination have no roof.

    • John Kuthe

      Your perception of time is fallacious, did you know that? So the entire base of your argument is invalid. Looks like you’re searching for some simple explanation that this thing we call God exists when it doesn’t.

    • Dennis Freeland

      1) Because “Nothing” in common English has a completely different meaning to “Nothing” in Physics ! In physics it is impossible to have “nothing” – that is QM for you. Don’t blame me for the nature of the universe !

      2) Check out Professor Siegel’s blog “It started with a bang” – he shows how a universe can come from “nothing” without violating the laws of physics. It is remarkably simple (in principle …)

      3) The existence of the universe as Hawking states is more likely than not. As Stenger has calculated from QM (*) the universe has a dramatically higher probability of existing (around 70%) than NOT existing. As Stenger quipped – if a god wanted to show that he existed – he could have done so by PREVENTING the existence of a universe !

      OUR Existence is evidence that a god does NOT exist !! Ironic !!

      (*) The Comprehensible Cosmos, “Physics of the Vacuum”, Appendix
      H, Victor Stenger

    • grandpontif

      There is no such thing as nothing. To say that there can be nothing would be quite a stretch from what we know. Experiments attempt to approach the state of nothingness only manage to eliminate most matter leaving time and space present.

    • Melvin Mob Ogaraku

      i agree with you, gravity cant exist without space. was space created?, for the bang to occur it has to happen within something (space)

    • Hermod Bjørklund

      Not from nothing, but a singularity like inside a black hole. There is no beginning and there is no end. Just this “breathing” mechanism of an expanding universe and back to the singularity. Back and forth.

    • Rick

      Correct. In order for the universe to exist, SOMETHING must have always existed, and always will.

    • WolfgangDS

      You seem to be affirming that you know how “nothing” works. But I submit that you don’t know how “nothing” works. In fact, no one does because it’s impossible to observe. Absolute nothing would be devoid even of energy. It is nonexistence. You can’t ask “How can nothing produce something?” You can’t even ask “How can nothing…” because then you’ve gone and contradicted the very premise of the question. It’s self-defeating.

      “Nothing” has not and cannot be observed or assessed in any way, so it is IMPOSSIBLE to say one way or the other whether something can come from “nothing.”

    • Linda W. Kutzer

      How could a god create itself from nothing?

    • per_aksel_jensen

      HOW EXACTLY WAS GOOD CREATED ? AND HOW EXACTLY DID GOD CREATE THE UNIVERSE? it is a shame you´re not danish. because we have ¨jeppesens bibelskole¨who

    • Shakil Rayhan

      Sura AR Rahman [5-9]
      The sun and the moon adhere to a schedule, and the stars and the trees, all bow down in worship. He raised the heaven high and set the balance. Therefore, do not upset the balance: weigh with equity and do not give short weight.
      Sura AR Rahman [10-13]
      He (Almighty Allah) set the earth for all creatures, with all kinds of tasty fruits in abundance and palm-trees with sheathed fruit, and a variety of corn with husk as well as grain. So, O jinn and men, which of your Lord’s blessings will you deny?

    • http://0xcrypto.tech Vikrant Singh Chauhan

      Your understanding of creation is wrong in itself. Everything, including the governing laws and stuff were never created. They just adopted to the evolution. All the dimensions were never created. In fact, we just assume big bang happened. But it was always happening and will always happen. The time was always and will always.

    • Norman Alan Perry

      The answer: “infinite regression” from Vlatko Vedral’s book, “Decoding Realty”………https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decoding_Reality

    • Vagatorro

      Well,they didn’t have a parliament back then to pass such laws so it must have been God.

    • http://hotporn.comon Kyrie Eleison

      We live in a realm of Things.But there are realms where No Thing is an object of worship.Realms of pure spirit,where Things no longer have any power of attraction.

  • srikanth sri

    I takes alot of time to figure out how this universe created.

  • srikanth sri

    They need to find what’s outside of this universe are their any parallel universes or just only one. i think that may help full to know how this universe was created

  • sunil

    This is what the indian concept is about. That I, U and that god are not three but ONE. Which means he is everywhere … in stone, animals, air, water, fire, i , u , him, her….divinity everywhere. Nothing is yours, u haven’t brought anything with u, u cannot not take anything with u, whatever is u r s today was somebody’s, it will be someone else s tommorow. So U do u r Karma without expecting anything in return.They dicovered Planets 500+ years ago without Telescopes and Cells without Microscope. They gave the world Yoga, Meditation, Pranayama, Ayurveda medicine etc.

  • Marta Cienkosz

    We are God, all is God, everywhere, everything

    • Robert Daniel

      In that case we are all responsible for genocide and human suffering on an unprecedented scale.

      • Prateek Ruia

        Yes we are responsible. I think when we say God, we always imagine a Good God. Surprise! It’s a God that’s Everything! Good-evil, Light-dark, Hot-Cold, Creation-destruction. Omnipresent. Like it or not, that’s what keeps this drama going..

  • mfarah

    hi, people can get answers in the text of the eBook link: “decodinghumancreation” which confirm that God exists … the books with texts determine the continued existance of God.

  • Michelle Elyn Hogan

    Perhaps there is room for Hawkings’ theory AND God as well?

    • OhNoodlyOne

      Depends on what god you’re talking about.

    • Robert Daniel

      Perhaps not.

  • Sanjay Nirmal

    God is made up by us to try n wrap out tiny minds around things beyond our comprehension and science has barely laid a finger on. More so its a result of our primal fear ‘death’! and the fact that we might actually seize to exist once life as we know is over! I am human to and fear the same and would love to believe we go on! but somewhere deep inside i think i am clutching at straws to make me feel better about living today!

  • Kent j

    The Definition of Hubris. Shame on that man with the great mind. Makes him look pretty silly. Me the flea knows … KNOWS the status of the universe and infinity.

    • Strategic Clans

      You suck

    • urnotathinkerareu?

      nice ad hominem..attack the man…but give no evidence on why he may be wrong…theism really sucks.

      • MechaVelma

        that’s not ad hominem. learn the definition. then use the term.

      • Olteanu Marius

        Theism suck you say? Ok! Answer me this you all knowing!
        After the so called Big Bang …the Universe is found to accelerate. One would think at some point expansion stops. But no. It keeps accelerating….to accelerate something you need outside force. What or who is that force?
        Second. the electrons rotate around the atom with the speed of light….forever.
        Where this energy comes from?
        Third. the hard core of earth. Another stupidity. The radius of earth is 6600 kilometers, but science drilled only around 24 km. If my calculations are right that is 0.36%.
        They have the nerve to say that they know what is placed in the middle of earth.
        Forth: dark matter and dark energy…..simple inventions of scienctists. See lectures of Nassim Haramain.

        • Sean Royo

          olteanu! great science facts! dark matter, dark energy, anti matter..scientists cant even fully explain these things and yet they know they exist, Atheist doesnt believe in god, and yet they blame god when something happens untoward about their circumstances in life???? hayyyyy

          • nino korent

            for something to be a part of the scientific principle, at least something has to be found that doesn’t fit in to the current theory. Meaning, if you find a cause of something that isn’t right (like the accelerated expansion of the universe) and breaks the current model, you go on to test what’s happening and how can you explain it. You can either confirm something new, make a theory about it, test it, make it factual or break it and confirm the opposite. Both are acceptable in science and both ways give us answers to current questions and we get a better understanding of the universe for it. So yes, science might not have the answers to the dark energy just yet, but neither it did about relativity, string theory, hawking radiations, mars, etc. few hundred years ago, look what we know now.

          • http://maltabestview.blogspot.com.mt Sonya

            … How can a tiny dot in the universe … understand s God creation ….. Your brain isn’t enough to understand it … with all the respect ..try to find out how to use the other 90 %of the humans brain first 😉

          • nino korent

            The 10% of the brain is a myth. Human brain is always utilized and every part of the brain is dedicated for something. At least check your facts first.

        • nino korent

          you know, science thought the universe is decelerating and that it will stop at some point. BUT, the evidence to the contrary was found (you can easily measure the distances of objects in universe to high precision with todays technology) so they wondered why is this happening. The explanation was found when they discovered the dark matter, which then they found out to be the forming stone of the universe and where scientists thought was empty vacuum space in the universe isn’t really empty vacuum space but consists of dark matter. You can read some more on the topic if you just google it, but here’s an interesting article about it that explains the main points of it.
          http://www.iflscience.com/space/why-universe-accelerating/
          You can find even more in depth studies and experiments. But you can’t be ignorant about things like this just because you find scientific principle to be a hoax or something. That same scientific principle brought you satelites, modern medicine, new energy resources and many more.

          • Olteanu Marius

            Don’t call me ignorant just because I am not convinced of the ineffability of science. Science is now perceived as unmovable, undeniable truth. This is not so. This are a group of observations and approximations, of theories. Science was not always right.
            Regarding this dark matter and dark energy stuff…this invention, please take 8 hours :)) to see a rare clip of Nassim Haramain at below link. It is not the best quality, but this guy is a Physicist also. Maybe you will find it by not watching the whole clip, but it is worth it.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdxwQtv6cc
            Bye.

          • nino korent

            You’re having delusions about what science is and how it works. The science isn’t “the truth”. It’s a tool that’s standardized so everyone can easily use it in order to search for explanations for the things around us.

  • Nonde Salimu Mbewe

    God does exist. The only question we should ask is,”In which form does God exist?

    • OhNoodlyOne

      I don’t believe you.

    • Dave Cyrus

      if god does exist why did he let 7 million of his chosen people fry in the german ovens.

      • Josephine Bailey

        Nothing to do with “God” – anymore than “Chosen People”.

        • urnotathinkerareu?

          ahhh..of course

      • Antoine Lioudakis

        they definitely were the “chosen “….by Russians, Spanish, Germans , Arabs and other anti semites …. to die !!! God never said they were his favourites ,It was some semitic human who said that …. In all fairness God overestimated & exceeded his ability when he created Humans …

      • Vere Barzilai

        Because “God”is outside of time, he is, was and will be, for him things are, happened and will happen…he has no influence whatsoever.

        • nino korent

          if he has no influence whatsoever, he’s irrelevant.

          • Vere Barzilai

            Wouldn’t say he is irrelevant, he is just not responsible for your actions.

          • nino korent

            if it has no influence whatsoever, isn’t responsible for the actions of its supposed creations – what is it then but irrelevant to the equation of our existence ?

          • Vere Barzilai

            I am really not so much into religion, but I I could relate to God as an idea, relevant to my actions.

      • Charlie

        God allows you to choose. If you chose to eat unhealthy food resulting to illness or death, it’s your choice. God does not intervene, but He tells you which are good and which are bad foods. Good and bad people die for different reasons and God allows it for us to learn from. It’s up to us to mend our ways to prolong our existence or perish altogether. But those who have faith in God can look forward to being saved even if they die sooner or later.
        I believe in the Bible because all the prophecies there have materialized. No man, not even genius scientists, could have done that if God is not with them. These truths are what strengthen our faith, just as proofs strengthen scientists to believe that a certain theory is correct.

    • Strategic Clans

      Lol. Just go and die. You are a complete waste.
      Can’t even comprehend the occult

  • Abdul Wahab

    I believe there are many deficits in Stephan Hawking conclusion regarding existence of God.

    01. “ Science still has no evidence to prove what happened prior to Big Bang theory”

    02. How Stephan Hawing has proved scientifically that there is No GOD. Only statement of non-existence of God does not imply there is no GOD.

    03. Hawking in his book “The Grand design” states that universe began with the Big Bang which followed the inevitable law of gravity. I ask who made this law. Any law which is always true & perfect can exist on itself & who creates perfect laws?.

    04. Hawking states that universe is capable of launching its existence on its own & does not need GOD. I ask what Stephen Hawing has proof of this statement or its only view of Mr. Hawking??

    05. Hawking says” Is the way the universe began chosen by GOD for reasons we cannot understand or was it determined by law of science? I believe the second”. Here Stephen Hawking is confused. He asserts that he is unable to understand the reasons of creation by GOD so he believes in law of science.

    The science is progressing & determining the creation of universe it is all ok with us, but the existence of GOD is another issue & cannot be settled only by scientific inventions/discoveries.

  • Marc Hellé

    And all the gullible morons whine on cue. 😀

  • Art Hughes

    SORRY, Stephen Hawking, but you are WRONG on this. Just as we cannot get to the end of eternity going forward in time, then NEITHER we could have gotten where we are now, in the middle of eternity, having moved forward from an infinitely long ago past. Eternity goes in BOTH directions, my friend. God, an omniscient, omnipresent and transcendental entity existing outside the realm of the time/space continuum, CREATED the Cosmos VIA the Big Bang.

    • Wade Born

      you may hold that belief ..as opinions are all we really have to go on anyway..so we all win!

    • urnotathinkerareu?

      word salad stupidity…claims without evidence are opinions which everyone has…

  • Upali Magedaragamage

    There is no reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all.The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the poverty of our thoughts.’

    Bertrand Russell

  • Upali Magedaragamage

    What does the Buddha say about the origin of the universe?
    http://www.buddhanet.net/ans75.htmIn the Aganna Sutta, the Buddha described the universe being destroyed and then re-evolving into its present form over a period of countless millions of years.

  • Dupuis Micheline

    It makes me smile when I read or hear people say that God doesn’t exist… really! It doesn’t make me mad or sad or angry…not all all! The truth is; believe He does or doesn’t – GOD is real…(same for Jesus by the way) test Him personally, talk to him and ask Him to reveal himself to you… try and be ready to revelation in such a gentle way…. Life is so much better with Him in our daily life! His Spirit is gentle.! And no: I am no religion freak!! We blame Him for all the bad in this world meanwhile, we don’t want Him in our daily life… The thing is that He respects us enough to leave us alone as per our request! Humanity is to blame not HIM… God IS real…

    • Wade Born

      to you thanks for your opinion we all win!

  • Gunther Broos

    about 30 years ago i wrote exactly the same in my book, THE WONDER OF TRUTH in german language by BOOK RIX, WHAT A SHAME

  • Sean Royo

    he’s a genius and at the same time a atheist fool, maybe he’s blaming god about his health condition. does he think we just came out of nothing???? a book is not created out of nothing, an airplane is not created out of nothing, a tree will not grow out of nothing, there must be a creator, and so as the universe. people who dispute the existence of the creator are nuts. why is he reasoning with the law of gravity then? there is law of nature, law of karma and flawed human law. now he argues about “something” that came from nothing. i just pity at this sick human being.

  • Prateek Ruia

    Well, as far as the Vedic understanding goes, it says that the creator is the formless, attributeless conciousness permeating the entire creation. The closest one can imagine is space. Just empty space which contains the entire physical universe. Similarly, there’s an empty space where in dwells all intelligence or mind, and there’s an empty space where in dwells all consciousness. To put it simply, God is not an old man sitting up there, it is everything and nothing at the same time. it’s the emptiness from which the Grand Design of the universe unveiled. Mr. Hawkins makes one blunder. He says, one can assume the laws of nature can be assumed to be God. Vedant says the intelligence behind these laws come from an unmanifested entity which is God.
    Anyway, we shouldn’t take any of this on face value. We should seek – both spiritually and scientifically. And we shouldn’t conclude till we have the answer ourselves

  • MechaVelma

    Probably exhausted of trying to be scientifically agnostic on the subject when the concept of God has never been more than a 5000 yr old literary metaphor for the unknown, just like every other god man has invented over the millennia. Good for him.

  • Nirmal

    Just because we cannot see God we say God doesn’t exist.?? ..How can we ever see such a Pure Light remaining in limited knowledge!!

  • Nirmal

    Since we have absolute no knowledge of God then how can we ever recognize God !! if even God shows up??

    • Antoine Lioudakis

      Is an old man , white hair and beard , 180cm tall , average build, caucasian , wears Graeco/roman robe, and cloak ,and sandals . you will see paintings of Him in all churches ,and many in the Cistine Chapel in the Vatican , He is usually angry and Vindictive , can be violent if provoked, or annoyed , Approach with caution and don’t argue with Him , Remember He always has done stuff in Mysterious ways ….he doesn’t speak english , only Hebrew and Classical Greek , If you are gay, lezzo, whore, or lawyer , pretend you didn’t see him , and keep walking ,

    • Charlie

      God is spirit and not visible to humans. God’s glory is so bright that we sinners would die should we come across with such brightness. Read the Bible for you to understand how humans can see God in the resurrection. But just to give you an example and proof of God’s existence, in the Bible, it is defined that ‘God is love’. Love (as well as kindness, justice, and other images of God) is spirit and cannot be seen. Love and kindness are but 2 of the images of God with which we were created in His likeness. If you showed love, kindness and other good deeds to your fellowmen, you exhibit the image of God and your godly actions are spiritual manifestations of God. God dwells in our hearts. When we do good things, it is proof that God exists. When we do bad things, it is proof that the Devil exists (the Devil infiltrated our being when Adam disobeyed God the first time; prior to the first sin, Adam and Eve only did good things according to His likeness or image). We are free which one to choose.

  • chandrasekhar

    I agree that there is no god to ceate the universe . But I disagree that the universe was created . Actually , universe can neither be created nor be destroyed. Like matter and energy , universe will go on changing it’s state and situation. A scientific answer is not possible now. So we need a science -encouraged philosophical answer , which can satisfy us partially .

  • Scott Giddings

    Right on, Mr. Hawking. It seems obvious to me that there is no god. The concept itself is so anthropomorphic. Humans clearly made “him” up, and for good reason: to endow our lives with meaning and conquer our fear of death.

    In some ways I envy people of faith. It’s something I lost after adolescence, akin to my sincere though naive belief in Santa Claus as a child. I can’t pretend to believe in something so obviously false and self-serving just because it makes me feel better. I get why people believe in god, but that doesn’t make it true. In fact, the compelling motive for such belief may make it less likely to be true.

    In any case, honestly, reality is okay. You don’t need god. I’ve always wondered: if you can believe in a god who is real yet eternal, somehow self-generated with no beginning and no end, then why can’t you believe in an over-arching natural world with those same characteristics?

  • Karolis Kaunas

    Ego death is what he needs to see the bigger picture

  • amazing

    So WHO created gravity???? This guy is in for a BIG surprise someday! Shows even smart people can be stupid. That is why we have FAITH….we cannot see many things but know they are there.

  • Michael Chafe

    Think his point is the commonly held theistic versions of the creation of the universe (e.g. made in 6 days, etc) and the god figure (communication, burning bush, etc) have to be held at this point in our evolution to be complete mythological fabrications, written within the context (scientifically, politically, morally) of that time. Holding to these beliefs is no more rational than a belief in Zeus, or Odin, which were actually held to be gods rather than the fictional characters we understand them to be today. Plain and simple, the polytheistic and monotheistic gods don’t ‘make sense’ at this point in the human trajectory. If a person needs their particular mythology to ‘get by’ in life, so be it as long as it doesn’t interfere with another persons rights and quality of life (e.g law making, policy making, education). Evolution should bring about the complete dismissal of all current and previous ‘religions’ as nothing but mythology or a ‘spiritual guide’, resulting in non-belief in a god who ‘created’ our world or influences what happens in it.

  • Rick Katz

    I guess gravity is what has saved my life countless times and spoken to me and guided me. That gravity sure is smart, huh?

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  • abhijeet sinha

    My straight question to the highly renowned intellectual scientist ‘StephenHawking’….
    “Please use all physics and create even a single microscopic mass from nothing and then I request you to explain what physical phenomena leads to creation of EVERYTHING from NOTHING”
    I am not talking anything ab’t GOD…I myself feel full of dilemmas but can never be able to come to a conclusion for GOD does exist.
    But if so….then just explain “why physics exists? Why gravity exists?”
    I have seen a video by Discovery where scientist have told that the creation of Universe is so minutely designed and managed that even an infinitesimal mistake would never lead to its creation. So there must be a super-designer, a super-super-super engineer to create this UNIVERSE from NOTHING as stated by Stephen Hawkings.

  • Jim Oliver

    YOU Theists – Once again !! Not a single Leg to stand On!! yet you spout your Utter Goat herder Universe nonsense. I’ll take Genius and mathematical Theory and Sciences efforts – Over spewing CAVE dwellers Non-sensible BS and Knowing the time is fast approaching -Where religious dogma was and is Only a PHASE -Humans had to pass through. Good Bye and Good riddance and it can’t happen soon enough..

  • Chuck Militello

    I think the issue is the definition of God and what the laws of science are. Interesting are Hawking’s words that “…you can call the laws of science ‘God’, but it wouldn’t be a personal God that you could meet and ask questions”. We have been taught that we were made in the likeness of God …however that does not necessarily mean our physical human bodies, but rather our souls that are made in the likeness of God. If this is true then God is a massive energy that is the totality of every animate and inanimate object in the Universe, which we are all a part of; an energy that we return to when our physical bodies cease to exist (physical death). In this respect, Hawking’s comment may be more correct than he realizes and God is indeed one and the same with the laws of science and physics as God is the culmination of ALL that exists. I think this will become even more evident when we learn that we are not alone in the Universe, as then we will indeed question what “in the likeness of God” means when we learn of other beings in the Universe. In the end we are ALL individual energy patterns that we identify as ‘our-self’ and yet at some point we will all come together and create the ultimate God-energy …’all that is’! Just maybe, this massive energy is the bright light that many dying patients have reported to have seen, and that many have not wanted to leave and return to their physical body. JUST ANOTHER THOUGHT!

  • Hellyn Windoog

    The one word, God, is over used and has to many beliefs attached through thousands of years of indoctrination, no matter what your belief. Physics makes sense but there is no firm qualification for the connection we have for the spiritual aspects. What we feel or know is personal and this is Stephens opinion and needs to be read as a whole work and not just a small article to make remarks about. It is too big of a subject like the universe itself.

  • Gary Ingram

    There was no big bang. There was nothing, not even a vacuum. Over time the nothing began to coalesce and move heavier gases in a meaningless pattern until by happenstance the mixing and mingling formed atoms of hydrogen, helium,oxygen and created the universe. Now put that in your textbooks and shut up.

  • Olteanu Marius

    This guy didn’t learn nothing. He struggled to right this stupid thing. He says God does not exist. Is this his opinion or a “science” fact? If is his opinion I am not interested. If is a science fact, please let me see the experiment apparatus. Meanwhile can he explain the following ?

    After the so called Big Bang ..our times ….the Universe is found to accelerate. Strange! One would think at some point expansion stops. Like any explosion. Law of conservation ring a bell? But no. It keeps accelerating….to accelerate something you need outside force. What or who is that force?
    Second. the electrons rotate around the atom with the speed of light….forever.
    Where this energy comes from?
    Third. the hard core of earth. Another stupidity. The radius of earth is 6600 kilometers, but scientists drilled only around 24 km. If my calculations are right that is 0.36%, so 1/3 of 1 percent, but they have the nerve to say that they know what is placed in the middle of earth, meaning a hard core made from nichel and some other stuff….Additional question is how is this hard core not melting ??
    My point is that this is bullshit. That’s why.
    Forth: dark matter and dark energy…..simple inventions of scienctists. See lectures of Nassim Haramain.

    • James Ratcliffe

      I’d just like to encourage you to think for yourself. Also there is no such a thing as everything or nothing. Can you prove otherwise? Also can you prove I’m wrong in saying you do or do not exsist? That’s my point, that there isn’t a point. All is and isn’t in the same moment. Prove me wrong oh holier than thou.

    • James Ratcliffe

      Btw its ” he didn’t learn anything” otherwise you’ve made a double negative. Like the rest of your statements thus far.

  • James Ratcliffe

    Hello. The only facts that are in your faces, god no god maybe maybe nots, is perspective. Not to mention what’s been measured and proven. Now I agree there are theories. Unproven conjecture. However the similarities in having a god and not having one be the great answer are both the same. Imagine if you will, nothing. Can you fathom that? Now try everything. Same results? So let’s get level for a second. How about this, what if the collective energy in the universe and nothing all stem from absolution, and equal 0. Now you can try to divide and multiply that as much as you like its the same. Big bang! Then time then space then what? Same again. So imagine if you will there is a god and not one at the same time, regardless of quantified measures and unmeasurables both are correct as most matter is made of 99% empty space. Not theory fact. The only thing that exsists is your perspective on the matter. Your conscience choice of reason. If you don’t have that you’re basically a ferral animal with no logic.

  • Sean Royo

    I apologise to all, i respect your beliefs and religions and if i have offended anyone here, please forgive me, my first time in this forum. happy sunday everyone, and i pray that we may be the best individual than we can be

  • Christian Elder

    Poor deceived debilitated little man living in denial. IMHO he wants to deny God, because of his condition. I pray he thinks his way out of the delusion or the Lord delivers him before it’s too late.

  • http://djgreyeyesgabriel.tumblr.com greyeyesgabriel

    E=mc^2=π^0=1=-E=m/c^2

    Now he and all Big Bang nuts can stfu, unified law, the formula of all of creation, intelligent design; what an ignorant little man he is, why does he ignore the Laws of Thermodynamics, specifically, energenergy cannot be created not destroyed? What about Newtonian Laws of Motion, why shall we ignore these laws in order to support a flawed theory just because humans cannot fathom something infinite; yet this formula represents how everything we refer to as matter manifests from motion (kinetic energy), contained within a field of antimatter (potential energy), separated by the infinite, zero point energy which has the same physical description of the theological living God within all of creation. To be such a genius, Stephen Hawking sure is arrogantly ignorant; you would expect a physicist to understand, know, and recognize the natural laws of physics, gravity is just a lower frequency wave of the electromagnetic spectrum which contains the matter within a gravity bubble for protection.

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    we need factory reset that i’m sure:)

  • sunil

    Man Created GOD. God as a THIRD party does not exist to Protect or to Punish People. I, U and HE are not THREE but ONE.

  • nicefriend

    Human brain may be too limited to “understand” God. Like what he says at the end it is mostly the laws of physics only being interpreted as religious disciplines so that common man can understand, like “every action will have an equal and opposite reaction” – do good deeds to receive them back

  • Midhu Vadhanan

    God is no where.. but godliness is every where..

  • Danielle

    We are a speck of dust in a universe of universe’s, each plant, Star, moon, dwarf planets etc. All have different biological and chemical compositions in their atmospheres that could create different life forms that can survive those atmospheres. We are able to survive on earth because of the compositions we are made of. That being said other beings could exist in other environments. And unfortunately biblical texts and religious documents have always been corrupted by power and control, kings and Solomon people in power have always used religions and “gods” to control people and they have rewritten texts over thousands of years to favor the rich and powerful as well as manipulate people into there versions of right and wrong. Some of the worst people follow so blindly behind others so they fit in whether that be God’s or not. I believe in the laws of nature. I believe we are a form of alien and to put power and control into some nonexistent being to control everyone seems selfish and ignorant.

  • Spencer Estrada

    U are all idiots

  • Don Houle

    your guess is as good as mine … who knows?

  • If u don’t believe in your creature then you don’t believe in creation it self .. look around you ..every single thing has a creature…

  • People who don’t ” believe ” are fake …each and every one of us pray to God when they are in difficulties ..

    • nino korent

      speak for yourself.

      • http://maltabestview.blogspot.com.mt Sonya

        Same goes 2 you 🙂

        • nino korent

          that’s the thing. I didn’t say anything in general. You did.
          “each and every one of us pray to God when they are in difficulties”. All I’m saying is you can’t generalize because you think it’s true. 😀 I don’t pray, nor will I ever pray. I find it to be a waste of time and energy. I’d rather focus on solving the problem than hoping some imaginary being will solve it for me.

          • http://maltabestview.blogspot.com.mt Sonya

            Yes true help your self so God can help you 🙂

      • http://maltabestview.blogspot.com.mt Sonya

        If ants doesn’t understand the programs u create doesn’t mean you don’t exist 😉

        • nino korent

          are you saying you believe we’re in a simulation? Doesn’t that go against beliefs of having a soul and eternal afterlife? What happens when the program stops or runs into an error? 😉

          • http://maltabestview.blogspot.com.mt Sonya

            Im just giving an example 😉

          • nino korent

            well example should be something comparable, this isn’t.

  • Martymo

    If there ever was nothing, then there would always be nothing. It’s not possible that nothing exploded and became something. Something exploded and changed into something else, but it was never nothing. If the very beginning was God, then that is something. Nothing is impossible if God exists. If God does not and never did exist, then nothing is possible and there would only be nothing. I just made this up. I’m no authority.

  • Gianni De Micco

    The law of science says that you CAN’T create anything out of nothing + for a law to exist, it needs to be something other than nothing. I can tell you that God created the Universe and if people would only open their eyes they would see. I wrote a book on this and gave proof of tangible miracles I received. I sent a free book to Stephen Hawkings to help correct his error but I guess he was too lazy to read it. For those interested you can get it on Amazon. Type in the words IHSO Jesus in the book section. Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Good-Shepherd-Gianni-Micco/dp/0993736602/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509942102&sr=8-1&keywords=ihso+jesus

  • Joey Strickland

    You ask where did God come from?
    I ask where did matter originate from? What initiated the Big Bang? How can we be here on Earth discussing this knowing how infinitely mathematically impossible our existence is?

    It is an argument and discussion that predates written history.
    No one can place proof on the table that proves their belief is correct. Both sides only push what they have faith in.

  • terry7289

    he’s right………

  • Irving Newman

    I love that humans have been arguing forever about a word (God) that no one can define. I find this funny.

  • Charlie

    It’s interesting to read most of the comments here, esp. about the existence of God. Pro science side argue that there is no proof while pro-God side claim the same for scientific theories such as evolution and the big-bang. I believe in creation so allow me to present proof of God’s existence. 1. Prophecies in the Bible have come to pass during our time even though these were written thousands or hundreds of years ago. These prophecies that have materialized are just one of the reasons why I have faith in God. 2. It is written in the Bible that ‘God is love’ and that we were created in the likeness or image of God. Since God is spirit, our likeness cannot be through our physical attributes but spiritual as well. But what are the attributes of God? All that is good come from God. Thus, if we show love, compassion, benevolence, justice, etc., we are manifesting the image of God and therefore God dwells in our hearts. But when Adam and Eve committed the first sin by disobeying God, evil entered our being and we are no longer the perfect image of God, but also of the Devil. Thus, when we do bad things, it’s a manifestation of the Devil existing in our hearts. We are free to choose our preference but what I’m trying to prove here is that God exists and it can be proven through the good things that we do, not to mention the existence of the universe and the uniqueness of life on earth, despite billions of planets in space.

  • http://www.burnsfitness.com John Burns

    Current religions are merely the residues of superstitions from time immemorial. As we spun on our planet in predictable fashion, humans found cause to believe in a supernatural explanation that harvest followed winter as night followed day. If rain fell then we had pleased our benign creator etc. The arguments to uphold this faith addiction have been honed over hundreds of millennia and there’s nothing to be gained by arguing with people who will not be dissuaded. It is more likely that we are all characters in a billion year old computer game than that we are the brain child of an invisible and omnipotent spirit.

  • charlesfee

    So- since he’s SO much smarter and SO convinced of his OWN superiority, he MUST be “right”, right ? REMEMBER – the PREVAILING “Wisdom” is CONSISTENTLY proven WRONG, and the more ARROGANT the self delusion, the more EXTREME the fall, so SELF-PROMOTE AT WILL ! HAVE FUN !

  • charlesfee

    AS “energy”, we are ALSO creations of the Creator of that energy. What you’re really asking is WHY !. Realize that even AS ENERGY we ARE the Universe’s way of being AWARE of itself. As STARDUST we are LITERALLY the UNIVERSE ! NOW if you are SO CONVINCED of your own superiority as an “atheist” just try running the numbers, not ONLY in terms of “Goldilocks zone”, but Galactic radiation patterns, odds against accidental creation, odds against the accidental creation of DNA, ANY ONE of these (and there are THOUSANDS MORE) would odds-on be against those odds at a higher rate than the entire number of particles in the known universe, EVEN INCLUDING Dark matter/energy. So, atheists, don’t be SO certain of your own superiority. EVERY age of MAN has suffered the VERY SAME FALL for the VERY SAME REASON.

  • grandpontif

    Before time, there is no time, but it’s not nothing. Taking matter away is not nothing. Taking time, matter and space away still isn’t nothing as there remains an energy in a form assimilated to a pure quantum state. So, from my point of view of something nothing is nothing, or there is no nothing. As for God, define what to look for first. The Romans defined Gods as super humans. This is possible. If God didn’t exist before the universe was created, given the age and dimension of its potentially habitable region, He would have been invented a long long time ago. So God exists. There remains to determine if God can survive the end of the universe.

  • Taivanbat Ariunbold

    What one man calls God, another man calls laws of Physics.

    -Nikola Tesla

  • Mosin Swede

    Who cares what this guy says, he’s not exactly doing so well now is he? Bright or not I am sure his illness has distorted not just his body but his mind as well. His opinion means no more or less than anyone else’s. The so called “Best and Brightest” have caused more pain, anguish and death to mankind than all rest of the worlds population combined. So again, who cares what this vain egoist says? not me

  • mydnytmover

    Where did the knowledge of good and bad come from then?? Evolution?? lol

  • SavoirFaireTx

    No doubt, the genius probably feels he got the short end of the stick in a lot of ways. Being the genius he is offsets some of this. I bet deep down that he prays that there is a Heaven.

  • jesse hernandez

    what

  • Susa Morgan Black

    Unlike him (and most of his readers), I am honest enough to admit that I don’t know whether there is a god or not, or whether, if there is a god, it is knowable or not. I’m an agnostic.

  • Lou Paul

    I have no problem with Hawkins statement accept that he doesn’t state the logic from his own assertion. If the universe can self create, then God can be that product of that, and God can exist. And he theory does not say that God cant exist. He theory clearly says could exist. Just because the universe could be here from nothing , according to him , that doesn’t not mean both cannot be true. As a good scientist he should point out that his theory any says it is possible not to have a God. Not proof there isnt. Too be he let ideology get int eh way of intellectual honesty. Intellectual honesty says you dont spin or exclude conclusions from your own theory.

  • Shakil Rayhan

    From The Holy QURAN
    Sura AR Rahman [5-9]
    The sun and the moon adhere to a schedule, and the stars and the trees, all bow down in worship. He raised the heaven high and set the balance. Therefore, do not upset the balance: weigh with equity and do not give short weight.
    Sura AR Rahman [10-13]
    He (Almighty Allah) set the earth for all creatures, with all kinds of tasty fruits in abundance and palm-trees with sheathed fruit, and a variety of corn with husk as well as grain. So, O jinn and men, which of your Lord’s blessings will you deny?

  • http://christiancitizenshipforum.blogspot.com/ OneCitizenOfTheRepublic

    1 Corinthians 3:18-20 (ESV)

    18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,” 20 and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.”

  • Alaaeldin Ibrahim

    Howcome somebody. Says before everything ,there was nothing; ..nothingness never existed and can never exist , from it’s name it is zero .zero never ever equals one by any means.
    Nothing means that no one thing is there by that time but does not mean at all that zero exists or takes place.
    Once something existed or will exist at any time that straight forwardly necessitates a true Existance to create this thing not from or by the zero but after the zero and after there was no there…no other solution..which means Existance is eternal.
    Eternal Existance means infinite oneness unity Existance…Almighty God.
    The universe and all we see are created things formed by rotating and vibrating kinetic énergies which are the effect and impact of the power of real original ideas..but yourself that you feel and your soul are real.
    ..Real ideas have real proofs.like; shadows may be illusions/dreams…but if the sun(the proof) is there , shadows are real and you can not erase them.
    Real ideas cause things and actions to happen not vise versa.fake ideas are temporary illusions.evil is sort of.
    Things are marvellous energy multi dimensional drawings and likewise is the universe..
    Try to imagine what is there outside of the expanding universe and what is time and how and why is the beginning of time and the universe?
    A/m assumed concept is just an approach to clarify that the truth is there even if we can’t know for sure or completely understand.( Can a drawing see or understand the drawer/designer ..can it stand or realise the mighty power without certain measures).
    We must take it seriously,
    It’s our lives and we’re not drunk or out of our minds.
    Life is not easy very hard..in a manner to distinguish and pick highest smart people allow them to suffer sequential hardships to promote and upgrade their conception provided they have sufficient patience.
    Top ranking persons are top suffering persons(profits).

    • Vagatorro

      All is one and one is zero.Meditate on that.

  • Jacob Kilbertson Zuttah

    Its obvious, the Universe is Greater than all the mythological narratives of its origin as presented by Religion. If, there should be an Entity called God, then is is certainly NOT the one presented by any of the World’s religions.

  • Jack Helliquinn

    Existence either you believe it’s intelligent “God” or you believe it’s not “Atheism”
    We exist so existence clearly does. Existence clearly is organized we barley exist in millions of different ways.
    Hundreds of years ago we “knew” the earth was the center of the universe. thousands of years ago we “knew” The earth was flat. Think about what we will know tomorrow.
    Humans conception is limited, and for some reason we can’t seam to conceive that. Every answer only creates more questions. Always how and never why.
    Science and its discoveries do not deny the existence of God.
    That be like saying the Car was built by tools there is no mechanic.
    Bottom line is we don’t know and we never will because answers just lead to more questions.

  • Russell King

    Time is just a creation of man,time is nothing,the universe is also mans mental creation,we as Humans are not Geard to understand the so called * Big Bang theory * everything around us,& everything we believe has been physically & Mentally by man.

  • Alaaeldin Ibrahim

    I think,
    One big question for every wise human being to ask himself all the time…am l ok am I going to succeed and reach a good eternal status or vise versa???
    If U assume there is no God,the answer is certainly the second one.. because sometime U are going to lose everything all vanish and U die and WL never be there anymore..more and more than a loser.,in that case,U worse nothing not even a penny all bankrupt..what is this smart reason behind all these nonsense bankruptcy..aimless but astonishing life and great universe that will collapse to nothing.
    Great wisdom is the logical answer and is behind everything….If U R wise enough. That’s it you win.
    If U R not ,U Lose U WL go astray…not even worth mentioning.why mentioning a non wise creature.
    Life is very wise cunningly hard and tedious.
    By the way; Wise is not to be highly educated…masters,PHD’s or even higher..or U have tremendous keen efforts for the sake of yourself.
    Wisdom is to be precisely fair and just.
    V.Simple human being may be much more intelligent than v.high ranked scientists and well known philosophers.
    In first steps of yr life U choose either to be fair or run breathlessly for yr sake and benefits.that is the zero error start error that will spoill all yr life decisions making U idiot even if U appear to others a great Prof.(only big efforts and tremendous enthusiasm only fr yr sake which are useless when added to the zero error.
    If U want to judge yourself,it is not a matter of ten years. Fivity .one handed..not even one thouthand..it is more than this looking from outside.
    Think that life riddle survivers may be less than 20%or perhaps 10%..life is looking for only distinct fair and just persons.really intelligent loving all high morals persons.

  • Alaaeldin Ibrahim

    Zero error can be permanently corrected partially or mostly if we have sufficient understanding self confronting with complete just and fair Constitution.
    Zero error can be temporarily correct when we temporarily forget all evil manners for the the sake of goodness,favours,pity,charity and prayers as long as we still in the same goodness condition. A mixture of long range and short range zero error correction effects exists,…I think so.
    God..Allah knows.

  • Dastagir Basha Shaikh

    Thank GOD he did not say I created all this. people who claimed they were gods are no longer in the contention today.

  • craigaaaw

    I didn’t know Hawking was that stupid!

  • Anthony Goldstein

    God is too busy appearing in toast and helping players win football games to deal with this.

  • Tsetse Mbatha

    So, before the “big bang theory” who had created the one big planet or whatever it was called ? Stephen Hawking should stop smoking weed before interviews.

  • Ponte Italia Nepal

    BS, logically the universe cannot originate itself when it is not existent, no phenomenon at all can originate from itself if itself is non-existent. And before there was something existent then there wouldn’t be nothing. I do not claim a God at all but everything arise in dependence of something else, we call this interdependence or dependent arising. Hawkins is right in saying that there is no God but is wrong when postulating the idea that something, the universe, is a result of nothing because nothing cannot create, or produce, anything at all

  • http://TheDisinterestedSpectator.com N. W. Flitcraft

    No object X can bring itself into being (i.e., “create itself”) for the simple reason that, in order to do so, X would have pre-exist itself: it would have to exist *before* it existed. This is plainly self-contradictory. Regardless of whether or not one believes in a divinity, Hawking’s notion of a “spontaneous creation” is, at the very least, illogical.

  • Mike Dziubinski

    I don’t know where we came from but I do know that we have two options in life, one; to selfishly think that we are the only conscious beings and therefore have the right to mould everything our way, to suck out what we can from life and to leave blood filled footprints in our wake, or two; we can appreciate that we are merely the biggest species of bacteria on the planet, that it is far more advantageous to be benign than malignant, that we can understand just what a miracle this tiny oasis in space really is, that the only effect we will have on reaching another planet is to infect it. I’m not looking for an after life, but I would like to leave a positive legacy and you don’t have to be the greatest anything to do that. PS my pet theory is that dark matter is what’s left after matter and anti matter annihilate each other,

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