Self-Help

Strong Women Would Rather Be Alone Than Spend Their Time with Assholes

  • Albatraoz
    • Tomasz Szewczyk

      Im sorry but you look like you would get winded going up a flight of stairs… thats not strong, what you meant is you are stronk, like a delusion of self grandeur fueled by a steady stream of dick flesh.

  • Ursu Zgubilitic

    Pretty dumb. Women can be assholes too, so same story can be written from men’s point of view.. Again, dumb, silly stupid point of view.. 😀

    • Boy Elvis

      “Don’t date assholes” is dumb? The only dumb thing I see here is you, sunshine.

      • Ursu Zgubilitic

        I think you miss her point. She seems to tag very easy someone as being asshole, and prefer to stay alone, than make any effort to understand the other or to know him enough to be able to put any tag on him. But you choose to try to capture their attention by telling “they are right!”.. Hoping they will let you at least to lick their pussies..

        • Boy Elvis

          You’re an asshole. Your very existence proves her point.

          • DeWayne Stafford

            See, more warfare on a grade school level.

          • MissNomer

            While you’re stuck in nursery school, poor baby.

        • Karen Woodward

          I love my pussie licked.

        • MissNomer

          But when HE “seems to tag very easy someone as being asshole, and prefer to stay alone, than make any effort to understand the other or to know her enough to be able to put any tag on her,” he is a righteous dude. Riiiiight.

      • DeWayne Stafford

        ee the ongoing warfare. INSANE

  • Ursu Zgubilitic

    And.. second opinion.. this kind of shit is written by people who are unable to get involved into a relationship. Unable to make compromises .. to understand that they, themselves can be great assholes and they simply put all the guilt for something being wrong on the other’s guy shoulder.

    • Kim Mann

      You are the very reason we prefer our own company!!

      • Ursu Zgubilitic

        Very long and happy loneliness then! :))

        • MissNomer

          Sweetie, just because you are lonely doesn’t mean we are.

  • Cameron Rowe

    In other words, I finally wised up after several bad boys used me as a piece of meat….

    • Tomasz Szewczyk

      I dont think she did at all. I thnk she just wants a breath before she showes the most vile and obscene acting assholes dick down her throat… its not like she will suddenly become a fucking sapiofile.

      • Sheri Theorganicpet

        you might rethink your language–do you eat with that mouth? seriously–

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          I did many times, everytime I try I am being called an idiot a retard an analphabet and a host of other shit for my disability (Disgraphia and Dyslexia) and after a few attacks I would decide eee fuck it at least when I cuss all the time IM a vile ashole not a retard… AT least assholes GET laid.

      • MissNomer

        If women truly were attracted to the most vile assholes, you’d have no trouble getting dates.

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          I dont, I have a problem avoiding all the crazy ladies, not that Im happy about the fact that I had to become some vile cunt just so I can get laid…. and I only go for super smart women I AM a sapiophile. When I done me I was overlooked when I became a hypermasculine doushe I got all the attention. Few scraps with some famous brawlers 0 respect for women and suddenly they either want to “change you” or hate fuck you… ITS THE WAMENS FAULT ITS A BUYERS MARKET AND YOU HAVE ALL THE PURCHASING POWER!

          • Toni-Marie Hudson

            No wonder you can’t get a woman…perhaps look at your own attitude. Are you one of these so-called “Nice nerds” that get ignored in favour of the arseholes? With the way you are behaving here, you sure as hell aren’t nice. By your logic, women should be throwing themselves at you…..but they clearly aren’t….

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            Who said I cant, in fact I dumped another one yesterday. Im the asshole Im the one women want.

          • Colleen Nevins

            You do not seem like a sapiophile. You seem rather ignorant to me from my observation of comments and from experience of someone who used to go for bad boys, you would have never, ever been someone I would have entertained. So I am wondering if the girls who you are having sex with are blow-up dolls or make-believe? I feel you are very, very insecure and may have mommy issues. I would check out therapy. Rejection is a serious issue that can cut to the core. It is OK, but you should get help. Please stop trying so hard to convince women that you are the asshole they want. It reeks desperation and really who wants to brag about that? You should never become someone you are not just for acceptance.

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            TAda tadada tadadada you this your that your this your that and homminem ad homminem You would not know a sapiopthile if he slapped you in the face, you are a low self esteem used and abused… not a smart lady… and yeah, dunno what “bad boys” you were into, but with your face its been some gang bangers lets be honest… yeah Im not a gang banger. I dont assume you are lying (You probably are since you project this shit on me) but I know for a fact, no self respecting man would come near a used up cumbucket like you… You wanna go this way you smelly shit face?

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            Im pro equal rights, you filthydildo rider, so you give me shit I give 2 back your a cunt… well you aint seen shit yet you think you are entitled to abuse me you are Fucking Mistaken, carry on an I will make you scared of the internet. I aint got shit to prove to a low IQ slapper cunt like you but I will not let you filthy waman bully or abuse me just because you have a filthy unclean dildo filled cunt. Go do jour cam work spread your legs for a fiver to some old man on the net.

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            I bet your dildos are disgusting dirty. I can see that in your fetid smile.

    • DeWayne Stafford

      The question is why you were attracted to them.

      • swg

        Um..maybe because women don’t KNOW someone is a bad boy til they’ve dated them for a while???

      • Laraine Ryan

        They were good looking, so she was hoping for good.

  • buffy3kins

    It’s more about being smart enough to stay away from the losers on both sides of the equation. Both men and women can be domineering and spiteful. Many can find that way to compromise with lots of give and take so both people can find some happiness in life.

    • DeWayne Stafford

      compromise is a sad life. ost settle for cold war.

      • Kim Burkert McGrantham

        How would compromise make for a sad life??

        • Anastasia Dunn

          Feeling a little threatened by this, DeWayne? Maybe you should take a good, long, hard look inside yourself, if you have a problem with women being happy with themselves….

          • p38l5

            You mentioned Dewayne but responded to Kim. Let your anger get the best of you?

        • vanillarhapsodic

          The point of this article is….you do mot HAVE to compromise…Love yourself

        • Will Springer

          you know the comment is going to lead to something bad, but continue to pursue it and encourage him?

        • susannunes

          You don’t need a man for anything.

          • Linda Adamsky

            Agree

      • xapai

        It will be a sad life if you are forced to compromise

        • soapy1

          Compromise does not mean settle…it means “give and take”. You cant have things your way all the time…compromise is a way to negotiate so both parties are satisfied. I will never settle for less than what I want…but am willing to compromise to get it. See what I mean? Im not sure I explained that right, but well….

          • susannunes

            Baloney. It is almost always required of the woman to drop her whole existence to make some entitled dude happy. Men are not required to “compromise” at all. Why is this psychobabble about “compromise” still being peddled?

          • AttilaTheHen

            Because it’s true. Give and take AKA compromise is an integral part of any successful relationship. Your view of compromise is distorted and confused. It’s not domination, which is what you’ve described. As for the rest, women aren’t “required” to compromise either, but those men and women who genuinely want lasting relationships compromise; and, intelligent individuals of both sexes choose their battles wisely. Everything doesn’t have to be a fight or battle of wills.

          • pschieber

            I told my children ( adults, of course) that it’s important. to know what you are willing to compromise on. One only learns that through experience and having a strong value system.

    • Seallia Love

      EXACTLY. THANK YOU

    • susannunes

      “Love relationships” aren’t necessary for “happiness in life.” That is just nonsense.

      The truth is “compromise” is almost always on the part of the woman. Men don’t compromise at all and aren’t expected to.

    • Janie Manasco

      I’ve seen the compromise work but positive results are very rare and this is for both sexes. And it will beat you up —not worth it to me. Now for a young woman–fine, choose cautiously, have those sweet babies but also get an education. Don’t let yourself be stuck. If and when you stay, it should be because you want to.

  • Russell Gunn

    It is exactly the same for strong men I am here to tell you

    • DellNell

      it is but women deal with it a lot more then guys though.

      • DeWayne Stafford

        How so

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          Beeecasuse… WOMEN!!! YOU SEXIST RACIST OR WHAT? (Sarcasm ;p)

        • VENAXIS

          because women are more superior than men u sexist bastard

          • Robert Melford Nickerson

            talk about asshole wow !!

          • Phreon

            “women are more superior than men u sexist bastard”

            You don’t do irony, do you?

          • flightwatch

            No they aren’t you sexist whore.

      • Mark Neil

        Because it’s always worse for women, right? Regardless of what “it” is.

        • Scanner On The Chair

          There ya go. Women are empowered, until that power is wielded incorrectly. Then. . .they are victims. Of men. Of society. Government. Doctors.

          • niki

            many of us are trained, locked and loaded, self sufficient, hate doctors, government and some people ! LOL…hate to say it but men seem scared of us

          • vanillarhapsodic

            What???

          • p38l5

            Nope. If you are nasty and rude, bitchy, we just ignore you. No fear involved at all 🙂

        • sbf42

          Most of the time, “strong” man/woman is interchangeable with “difficult, self-centered, privileged, asshole, etc.”

          • niki

            and we laughingly call our selves those names…. except privileged, don’t know where that came from ??

          • vanillarhapsodic

            You are a White woman…

          • Lucifer Light

            What are you, a jew ?

        • vanillarhapsodic

          Oh good god…can you hear yourself here? Waaaaah!…women cannot discuss our issues without men jumping in an demanding equal time. Let me guess…White guy.

          • Isa

            I suppose you’re ignorant so I will forgive you for that.

            1. When Men gather to discuss their issues at a venue, feminist protesters and their allies show up. Set the place on fire, pull the fire alarm, spit, shove, push any attendees. Yell out obscenities or worse. They shut down the discussion.

            2. When Men gather to discuss their issues online, feminists and their allies send messages to the private companies hosting the online services (be it Facebook, YouTube etc) to censor the content. Delete all of the interactions and denounce these Men as evil misogynists.

            The mainstream media, ignore Men’s issues for the aforementioned reasons. Because Men’s issues = Hate Speech.

            So you have to forgive Men for coming into conversations and trying to point out that they too have issues. Nobody is listening to them… so you get school shootings, drive-by shootings and violent crime or worse as a result.

            If you haven’t clued into that yet then you haven’t been paying attention.

          • Mark Neil

            “women cannot discuss our issues without men jumping in an demanding equal time.”

            Women have been doing that for decades or more, all the while claiming to be discussing equality. When men asked to be included, since equality means equal, meaning both, and not just getting blamed for everything, men were told to go make their own spaces, so they did, and were attacked by feminists like yourself for being misogynistic woman haters, and as Isa points out, having our venues and events protested and attacked…all the while the feminist protesting insisting that feminism is for both sexes. So now people like myself simply expose the constant petulant whinging of feminists and the double standards they push, as well as the utter lack of empathy you demonstrate, particularly when you try to gender issues by claiming women have it worse, regardless of the reality of the scenario.

          • Lucifer Light

            Listen asshole, if it wasnt for us “white guys”, thats European by the way, you girls wouldnt be “liberated”. Everything you have is because some miner crawled into hole to get the resources to build that car you drive. If it werent for the Europeans, you wouldnt have a house or apt. All those “white” farmers that fed you America and the world ? What about them ? How about all those jews wars those “whites” went off to fight on behalf of those racist narcissist supremacists jews calling for “white genocide” . You are an ungrateful jerk. Go fuck yourself.

          • p38l5

            Racist. You brought up Skin Color when this had nothing to do with the article. Bigot Much????

      • Dominic Blais

        the existence of a trump Jr proves you wrong

        • SoCalTemecula Smith

          wtf does Trump Jr have to do with this conversation…. really????

          • vanillarhapsodic

            Trump is these nutbar conspiracy theorists whole world. Next they will bring up “The Storm” and “Qanon” and “crumbs”

          • p38l5

            Picture of Hillary I see. Pathetic Loser who would still be a second rate lawyer if not for Billy and his Willy.

      • englishgit

        look forward to seeing your evidence for that claim 🙂

    • Mark Neil

      Except they get called man-babies, selfish and failures to launch.

      • Anastasia Dunn

        Pay that no mind… just live your life happily, and enjoy!! You were not put on God’s green earth to be made to explain yourself to those who question your intent with negative conviction. If you’re happy, and if how you live causes no harm to others, then more power to ya!! 🙂

    • MissNomer

      We aren’t talking about men, hon. Don’t change the subject.

    • niki

      Touche’

      • niki

        so maybe strong men should start picking strong women , instead of needy women, with limps and eye twitches, nothing against limpers, or the sight challenged

        • vanillarhapsodic

          Nothing against them? You just insulted them nutter

          • p38l5

            I think you are a guy hiding behind a picture of Hillary to be a Troll. Sad.

  • Julia Caldwell

    Men have learned to be condescending and don’t value women. So many women lie just to keep a man’s ego in tact, when all they’re doing is delaying their own happiness. Women will still be alone and unhappy after they give their all to the children that comes from having relationships with men. Please don’t take too long being good to yourself and loving who you are. If you do, you have no one to blame but yourself. Marriage or relationships have never been all they’re cut out to be, it’s mainly a fantasy that will never come true and who benefits, the man you give your all to and he sees you as his maid and caregiver,

    • Tomasz Szewczyk

      AAAND who taught them that? DIIIID the ladies that always go for the biggest cunt in the room have anything to do with that? UUUGH mafybe the “nerds” you shunned all your life were the nice guys you just like to be bitchslapped and borderline raped cause its kinky… yeah I dont respect wamen. They dont deserve it as a whole. Individuals I love, wamen are a bunch of spoilt bitches that go for cunts all the time.

      • Sheri Theorganicpet

        Wow. you might wanna wash that mouth out with soap, bro.

        • Michelle

          And get a spell check.

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            DID YOU JUST TELL ME TO GO AND HIDE MY DISABILITY YOU SCUM?

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            Grammar Nazi – chasing dislexic people of the internet since FUCKING STALIN!!! YOU PIECE OF SHIT HUMAN BEING ABELIST SCUM!

          • just_sayin

            dYslexia is the scrambling of letters, it’s not replacing an “O” in woman with an “A”. Nice try. You are just an internet troll.

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            IS THE SIGHT OF MY DISABILITY OFFENDING YOU? LIKE JEWS OFFENDED HITLER MAYBE? YOU WANT TO FIGHT US WHERE YOU SEE US? YOU ARE A SHIT HUMAN BEING!!!

      • MissNomer

        You’re not a nice guy. YOU are the biggest cunt in the room.

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          YES YES thats why Im getting laid. Not happy about it. and then when i finish the lie ima really nice vegetarian caring activist enterpreneour guy… who is not happy that wamen promote assholes. I just wont fight reality.

          • Candy Sanchez

            U have serious issues. I hope u get help real soon & get taken off the streets away from society before u hurt someone or someone hurts u!

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            |Well people are cunts and the world is fucked up. That is my problem. I dont know you I did not speak out to you and you still feel entitled to write obscene toxic and really disgusting stuff towards me, why? Do you feel superior? Hate to break it to you, you are just as spiteful and pathetic as I am if not worse, as at least I have half the brain cell to realize my shortcomings.

          • Scanner On The Chair

            Dude. You need to chill.

          • Toni-Marie Hudson

            He’s a self entitled fuckwit who clearly is throwing a tantrum because he’s been rejected…..he probably thinks that women owe men sex just for being nice to them.

          • Mark Neil

            It’s funny how women so quickly go to shaming male sexuallity when men fail to treat those women with the reverance they feel entitled to.

            “he probably thinks that women owe men sex just for being nice to them.”

            And what message is it you think you’re sending when you paint any man who’s not nice to women as incapable of getting sex (despite the evidence being to the contrary)?

          • MissNomer

            That’s not what she said, though. She said he probably feels entitled to sex because he was nice to a woman who rejected him.

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            Also, your readiness and how fast you go from words to violence might say something about your choice of men and why men you choose abuse children… Why do you think its so obvious to you that I will be hurt because of my wrongthink?

        • Jose Rodriguez

          All Women are SCUM. Basically, any guy who is not in the top 10% of Income Earners is an “asshole” by Women’s Definition. This is just another pathetic attempt for women to try to seem like they have justifications for why they don’t want to date Men. In any case, Women have created a monster for themselves which is only gonna eat them alive really soon. God is waging war against Women also, for they are filthy SCUM

          • MissNomer

            Thank you for proving my point!

          • swg

            Spoken like a true Mens Rights Activist. (ie, the type of guy who sits in his mother’s basement listening to Richard Spencer and fapping to Nazi documentaries on the History Channel cuz he can’t get a woman)

          • englishgit

            I look forward to your actualk evidence that people trying to correct inequality for men all share those criteria

        • Tigger

          Please don’t call uncool guys cunts. To do so is to demean your own body – and to give them a credit they don’t deserve.
          asshole is just fine – i.e. necessary, but full of crap nevertheless.

    • The checkbook

      I hope you get over your disappointment and find a good man. They are out there. I have one. Words of advice however, never “give your all to your children”. Ignore a man and you can expect to be ignored. Find a balance.

      • swg

        LOL Nobody “needs” a man. You sound like a 1950s relic

        • flightwatch

          Nobody “needs” a woman either.

          • swg

            You probably say that cuz you’ve never HAD one. lol

      • sue

        So true. I gave so much to my 2 sons. My husband died and they got depressed and moved away Now to find a new life.

        • Raul Campbell

          aww

      • SoCalTemecula Smith

        You should give your all to your children…. what the hell kind of advice is that Julia Caldwell aka The checkbook…. Your children will ALWAYS be your children. Your man can come and go, regardless! I gave my all to my ex husband, and he cheated on me and left me for another woman. But I still had my beautiful 2 year old daughter, who is now 33 years old. She did not come and go in my life, but her dad did! So no matter what you say… your child is your child! Your husband can come and go…. remember that!

    • DeWayne Stafford

      That was not a man, it was a boy in a mans body wanting a mommy.

    • Dominic Blais

      you are a selfish cunt like all right wing feminazis who want to tell me how oppressed ivanka trump is, you nazi oligarchy whores make me sick

    • sue

      I was married over 30 years. I was so blessed to find a man that treated me as an equal. Who loved me for me and did not want to change me nor me change him. We were very independent but made a life together with respect and love. I was so lucky that we shared chores and responsibilities of the kids. After 3 1/2 years of him being gone I miss him every day. It is so sad to hear what I hear about relationships today. I know God has a plan for me. Maybe I will not meet that special person. Maybe I was only allowed one in my life. Everyone thinks of me being a strong business woman but in my personal life I am lonely. I wish I knew how to accept things and be happy alone. Wit society the way it is that might be my norm.

    • flightwatch

      Who hurt you?

    • DeplorableVI

      Ahhh put a cork in it. A big fat cork.

      • swg

        Typical Trump loving sexist “deplorable”. So funny that you morons are PROUD of that moniker

        • DeplorableVI

          I said a BIG cork you nasty old sea hag.

          • swg

            Go f yourself, since no one else will

          • DeplorableVI

            You are a life support system for a vagina. Your sole propose is to pleasure men and raise babies. Keep up the good work.

          • swg

            Yup. Typical Deplorable. Hates women cuz he’s so repulsive, he can never get laid.

            It’s not women’s fault that you can’t get a job, smell bad, look greasy, are bald, and live in your mom’s basement.

          • MissNomer
          • *Independent-Free-Thinker*

            I bet you’re headed for additional timeouts/bans. You deserve them. Serial vulgar harasser.

          • swg

            You’re headed for the mental hospital and a RESTRAINING ORDER, STALKER

          • swg

            11,000 comments cuz you got no life. I’m sick of your stalking. BLOCKED!

          • *Independent-Free-Thinker*

            Thank you

        • SoCalTemecula Smith

          Again, what the hell does Trump have to do with this?

          • englishgit

            The anti-Trumpers don’t need rationality to blame every unconnected thing they dislike on him

          • Laraine Ryan

            Person identifies as “Deplorable” so they are pretty much bringing it up.

  • DonKrieger

    Why does the cover photo have to carry a message diametrically opposed to the content of the headline?

    Look at that face and tell me that a young beautiful woman with pouty lips and perfect makeup fits your picture of a strong woman.

    And you who look like that, I apologize and hope that when I follow the link, I will get to see your perfect tits.

    • Kim Mann

      It is because of dick heads like you that we tend to prefer our own company. What the f*ck do tits have to do with inner strength you retard????

      • DonKrieger

        Hi Kim,

        Please read what I wrote again, Kim.
        I agree with you which is what I state in the first 2 sentences.
        The 3rd sentence is pure irony — nothing more.

        Best – Don

        • James R. Olson

          No, Don, your entire post, every word marks you as an asshole.

      • Max Chotoo

        You arude person go to church

      • Joseph Balaj

        His point his that these types of women that are being defined as ‘strong’ are attracted to those types of men to begin with so they are part of the problem.

      • swg

        You’re being too nice to this mouth-breather.

        Saying he’s a retard is generous.

    • Heather Erskine Hinckley

      Women can be beautiful and strong…we are complex creatures and you are extremely limited in thinking the picture of a strong woman isn’t also beautiful…demeaning and sexualizing….you are the problem

      • DonKrieger

        Dear Heather,

        Of course you are correct that women can be beautiful and strong. But your comment is irrelevant. The article is not you; it is about you. The publishers are ceasing on the sexism of the readers to promote the article. It was the “come-on” for the article that my post is about.

        • lisofby

          the photo is not depicting a pout, just full lips…are you alone and miserable? my guess would be yes. women do not have to be unifaceted, nor fit your definition of strength and or beauty. your comments are offensive. you are too ignorant and cynical to recognise it.

          • lauracooskey

            Oh, i don’t know… i’m a woman (and not a horribly ugly one, if that matters) and i noticed what DonKrieger said. Now of course we shouldn’t be prejudiced against beautiful women… that’s just another horribly rude objectification. But the lead photo on an opinion piece is chosen for a reason… that face probably doesn’t just happen to be on the person who was next to the typist… and they chose a deliberately traditional-feminine-pinup-beauty allure. It’s notable, is all.
            Don was punchy but i guess he shouldn’t say these things because he’s a dude.

          • lisofby

            I don’t know how your comment is a reply to mine…I know dudes: Don sounds like a sick, reductionistic misogynist to me.

          • MissNomer

            Not it’s not notable, it’s ridiculous. A woman’s looks have nothing to do with her strength or lack of it. Apparently Don thinks that by using an attractive woman’s face to accompany the article, he was unfairly duped into reading it, and he thinks any link with a photo of an attractive woman must lead to tit pics.

    • lauracooskey

      Ah haha, DonKrieger, i thought of that too. Always the picture-perfect model. By the way, i wouldn’t say her makeup is perfect, as you can see the tracks of her lip liner. Of course, the admission of painting on lusty lips just reinforces the “come-hither” sensuality of the image.
      But i’m going to give them a break for this one. I think the author/editors didn’t want to reinforce an idea that women who choose to live alone might do so because they’re frumpy, plain, ugly, butch lesbian, etc. They’re trying to show that even the most desirable women might choose freedom. Also, it’s an old tried-and-true trope that a pretty face boosts readership… whether an article is meant for female or male readers, we tune into an attractive face.
      Still… it’s always inviting to see an “attractive” (friendly, fun, interesting) face that’s not all about sexuality. I expect to see more of those as we grow away from hetero-sex-oriented everything.

    • Elizabeth Alvarado

      There are many strong women who are also beautiful like the girl in the picture. There is a misconception that beautiful women can not be smart and good people.

    • Toni-Marie Hudson

      So you’re basically saying that women have to be ugly to be strong then?

    • Ståle Ruud Eidsvoll

      why must you sink the boat? everyone of the men that are half dezent, sees u as a terror… if u cannot say one nice thing about our mothers, take a bath in sargasso sea. dont want no short dikc man.

      • Tomasz Szewczyk

        We have a saying in Poland “all women are whores except our mothers” take from that what you want. In regards to the comment you deleted… I never said Im not an idiot. In fact I Know I am a fool. I know enough people to know that pure IQ has jack shit to do with not bieng an idiot…. in fact I think the higher your IQ the more of a EQ retard and a social pariah you are… LIke me 😛 only Im not even That. IQ intelligent…

    • swg

      Wow. Superficial, much?? People like you are why rape culture exists.

  • CL Ngwe-Nwi

    I learnt this lesson quite early on in life. After seeing how guys used perfectly good girls as piece of meat! I’ve always valued my time as single and enjoyed the freedom. Having a great partner is also well worth the wait. I Just chillaxed and weighed the shit out of suitors. lol. I believe it works better with a change of perspective for those who see companionship as the ultimate goal or the only path to happiness. I’m Proud to be one strong woman blogging to bring others on board.

    • Tomasz Szewczyk

      You are not a strong woman (not just :P) you are a Smart resolute and pragmatic human ,well done! Wished I meet a gem like you on my path. Peace and keep up the good work.

  • Deena Patrick

    After reading this article, I had to look up the definition of a strong woman and what exactly defines one. Here is what I found, 1- A strong woman knows she has enough strength for her journey, but a praying woman knows it’s in her journey where she will gain her strength.2- A confident woman is- I am strong I’ve been through a lot in my life and I am still standing. 3- Sometimes the strongest woman are the ones who love beyond all faults, cry behind closed doors, and fights battles that nobody knows about it. 4-A strong woman will automatically stop trying if she feels unwanted, she won’t fix it or beg, she’ll just walk away. 5- A strong woman loves, forgive, walks away, lets go, tries again, perseveres…no matter what life throws at her. 6-A strong woman work’s out everyday to keep her body in shape, but a woman of strength kneels in prayer to keep her soul in shape. 7-Be a strong woman, so your daughter will have a role model and your son will know what to look for in a woman, when he is a man. There were many more, but where a strong person fits in depends on the individual, and their experience they been through. This article is like being on a roller coaster with twist turns, Being a strong woman has its advantages, you can date but you really don’t need to because you can get by. The Buddha states, spend time with your self or something you enjoy, or with someone. It is also okay to be openly to dating and remaining single? Here is the first twist turn, they are saying it’s okay to date as long as you don’t get married? The second twist turn, this is why strong woman don’t waste their time on jerks? Some woman like jerks, I am sure you heard people say, oh she’s okay but he is a real jerk. the third twist, is that a strong woman should know when she is being deceived or gong to be deceived? Does this mean in her past or her presence (future)? The last twist so it is much better to be alone, but not really? I really don’t know what to make of this, but after looking up the definition of a strong woman like # 5 that best describes me, I don’t consider myself a strong person but maybe logical one, empath, considerate, to every circumstance I encounter however I do not allow anyone to take advantage, I don’t think that’s a strong woman, Thank You for Sharing.

    • Sonya

      The meaning that I am getting is …
      For – “It is also okay to be openly to dating and remaining single?”
      I see the meaning of what is being said is that it is okay to date but it is ALSO okay to remain single, that just because a lot of people need to be in a relationship doesn’t mean you have to be. Some people don’t have the strength to be alone and are unhappy to be alone, it is good to be capable of being happy alone without feeling lonely, but it doesn’t mean you have to be, see it as a choice that you can be happy in either situation.
      For -“The second twist turn, this is why strong woman don’t waste their time on jerks? Some woman like jerks, I am sure you heard people say, oh she’s okay but he is a real jerk. the third twist, is that a strong woman should know when she is being deceived or gong to be deceived? Does this mean in her past or her presence (future)?”
      I see the meaning of what is being said is that strong women have usually had at some point experience of “jerks”, therefore they know what to now look out for and if they realise that a guy is a “jerk” they have the strength to walk away and will not waste their time with guys like this.
      For-“The last twist so it is much better to be alone, but not really? ”
      I see the meaning of what is being said is that a strong woman can be alone, is not afraid of being alone, they know that it is better to be alone than be in a bad relationship, and they do not perceive being alone as the same as being lonely as they have the strength to go it alone. It does not mean they have to be alone just that they can be.

      • Deena Patrick

        Thank You for explaining, everyone has their own interpretation when reading the same article. This Is true for some people who can get by, being with themselves, and it is also true that some people do not like being alone. This article uses the word assholes, I used jerk, but even that word is wrong. I don’t believe all strong woman look to avoid certain people like classified in this article. But rather a special person, who may appear strong that may like to be around such people. Thank you for Sharing

    • Triciads

      Deena ~ Your description of a “strong woman” was more inspiring,accurate and uplifting than the article. Thank you for your research and thoughtful consideration. Your comment was better than the article. Very good

  • Val Thonis

    I’d much rather be alone than deal with most people.

    • Colleen Nevins

      Now this is the most logical comment on here.

      • Val Thonis

        Thanks, its just a product of people treating me like dirt cause they don’t want to take the time to understand me. And I try to shield myself from that.

  • Debra Lloyd

    People have told me I am a strong and brave woman. I’ve lived without a man in my house for 30 years. Dated tons of them though. Do miss the company of the opposite sex. Really get disappointed when I am in conversation with a man and their significant other has to insert herself inferring I should be reminded he is her possession. Anyone relate to this? I’m not interested in married, or connected men, or getting hitched up. Just like various points of view from the opposite sex. Can you ladies give us a break sometimes?

    • DeplorableVI

      I enjoy being with my wife, we do things together we wouldn’t go with relative strangers. When I do a load of laundry there’s more of her stuff than mine. I enjoy folding her tiny underpants and I secretly smell them as I do. They smell so good fresh from the dryer. I like waking up and knowing who’s next to me and knowing she’s not some drunk bitch with little self control. I enjoy cooking dinner for her once and awhile, I’d just eat PBJ but cooking for my wife makes me feel good and I think she feels the same. When I repair her car or change the oil she says she feels safe knowing I did the work not some hungover mechanic. When I mow the lawn she knows she’s not gonna get raped by an illegal alien. When I lay the wood to her I need no condem and have no concern for a veneral diease. All important quality of life issues to me.

  • Soren Fde Holm

    I am okay with this. I myself perfer my own company over being with a self serving feminist bitch. If a woman ferfer to save herself for a nice mangina that treats her like a princess. or she just grow old and alone. I dont give a fuck. as long as she keeps away from me.

    • JaneWilder

      all you want from a woman is a vagina? What do you have to offer? A penis? big deal, technology has already invented that. For myself, I want a partner in a life that isn’t all about sex. It includes sex, but it is about a whole relationship that includes, sex , love and respect. You are obviously a very bitter person.

      • Soren Fde Holm

        I have nothing to offer a woman who puts her own gender a piedestal, who dares to critisize a man for following his own true nature or dream.. You only get that from western women, I wont even offer my dick for one night. Women of today are spoiled rotten, tanks god for “MGTOW”

        • MissNomer

          Ah, so it’s OK for men to follow their own nature or dream, but not for women to do so. Got it. Yup, total double standard.

      • Tomasz Szewczyk

        COrrection the men you chase after who are waay above your class are using you as cheap meat… because you are cheap. If you have nothing more to offer than you pussy dont expect to have a Sapiophile to have any interest in shallow you.

    • Haunani V. K. Kawananakoa

      It’s interesting how you imply that men who treat women well are somehow unmanly and worthy of your contempt. Also interesting how you only value women for cooking, maid service, and sex. Being with you must be magical.

      • Soren Fde Holm

        yes, i’ts a rollercoaster ride. As I stated we dont need women for anything, I can do my own cooking, cleaning. etc. SO what would I want with a woman? someone to tell me what to spend my money on behaps? or how to dress? I am no different that this so called “strong woman who call strong men “ASSHOLES” No better No worse.

        • MissNomer

          Congratulations on choosing to “grow old and alone”! @[email protected]

          • Soren Fde Holm

            we are born alone, and we will die alone, that’s life – but in between I don’t deny myself girlfriends, only that it will happen on MY terms. my rules.

      • Joanne Poodle Harrison

        😂😂😂

    • Mira Lea

      It is both sad and interesting that, in this day and age especially, there are still people out there who believe that when a man stands up for himself and is strong, he is a man, but when a woman stands up for herself and is strong, she is a self-serving feminist bitch.
      A revealing double-standard that speaks volumes and says many things about you as a person, and little of it good.

      • Soren Fde Holm

        Well excuse ME. But I dont think that “self-serving feminist bitch” is any worse than “asshole” – Its a giving thing that if you make a serve like THAT, you deserve the label. I truely belive that those terms are matching. If she just stated that she was going her own way ,without attacking men who are “strong” as you say. we woulden’t have a problem, now WOULD WE? But behaps you think that women are in title to slander the male gender as they see fit? That would make YOU a Fenimist bitch. Now woulden’t it?

        • MissNomer

          That’s funny, I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a MGTOW who didn’t attack women. Including you, sparky. I don’t think they exist. After all, you don’t decide to become a MGTOW because you like and admire women, but because you hate and fear them.

          This article is not about WGTOW, though. It’s about women who do like men, very much, but refuse to waste their time on assholes. It’s not at all the same thing. Yes, it is a double standard.

          • Soren Fde Holm

            and MGTOW’s refuse to waste time AND money on SELF serving bitches. same thing.
            over again. but the difference between me and this woman is that I don’t consider all woman “self serving bitches or “assholes” I just quickly move on when I encounter an Caisy or self serving bitch. I dont have time for that.

  • Amy Frith

    I love this article . I am always single and I am always celibate . I have been told by friends of family that I should ” go and get a man ” because ” life is meant to be lived with a man . ” The fact remains that I am happy alone . I refuse to settle for someone that is not suitable in order to FIT IN . I refuse to live my life as a people pleaser . I have had a deeply fulfilling life , living my dreams as an artist / traveler / visionary since day one . Most men are afraid of my confidence and it’s their problem . It’s not my problem . Empowered women empower women . I want to empower other women to realize that living alone and being alone can be very fulfilling and fun . I have fallen in love with the freedom of my path . I have fallen in love with the freedom of my own individuality . I am 39 . I am alone and happy . I have great friends . I have a solid goal . I plan to make my first million before I date . I have only been on a few dates in my life and I didn’t like the feeling of having less money than the men that I dated . …. so I decided that I will date after I am a millionaire . I treat my body like a temple . I eat mostly raw vegan ( and eat really unhealthy things occasionally yet I am primarily eating vegan , organic , healthy foods ) . I do tons of hot yoga . My life is a meditation . I am a student of electronic music production . I’ve been to more raves than I can easily remember . I have danced on stage with a lot of my favourite artists from around the world at big and small world class events . I have painted murals in many world class locations , I have painted and sold more high end paintings than I can count . I have lived in so many incredibly gorgeous places . I have manifested so much blissful enlightening abundance in my life . I am rich in my vision . I am rich in my heart . I am rich in my freedom . I am rich in my connection to God , and personally I refuse to conceptualize God as being a man . God may be a man or a woman , and my perception of my relationship with God is my own . I will be well known soon , and I will do my very best to continue to work to empower people to liberate themselves , fully and completely . These are the days of transformation . If you are settling for less than what you are worth , please , get a journal and write about your goals . Write about your desires . Get clear . Focus you energy . Take action in alignment with your individuality because your individuality is your soul and YOUR SOUL MATTERS . YOU BELONG HERE . YOUR DREAMS BELONG HERE . XO AMY ELIZABETH FRITH , MULTIDISCIPLINARY ARTIST / FEMALEBOSS

  • DeplorableVI

    My headline would say “Weak women who wish they were strong prefer to live alone.”

    • MissNomer

      So it is also true that men who prefer to live alone are weak men who wish they were strong? That would explain MGTOWs.

  • DeplorableVI

    I’m retired now and walk for excersise every morning. My walk takes me past a methadone center where I see more women than men getting their morning fix. It’s close to a 3 woman to 1 man ratio. I bet they live alone. Before I retired I lived in Miami Beach and fished almost every Saturday and Sunday morning. I often saw attractive women staggering around before dawn vomiting and pissing in the gutter or washing their panties out in the surf. I was comforted to go home and see my wife sleeping peacefully. My wife is a strong woman.

    • MissNomer

      Because she puts up with you, who makes absurd generalizations about women because the only ones you see are meth users and party girls? You should get out more, maybe do some volunteer work.

      • DeplorableVI

        I think you should get out more, you’re cruising the internet aurguing with a man you never met. I made a statement or two on my personal observations. If you don’t like them too bad, they are my thoughts on what I see. Go put on your funny little vagina hat and rage at someone else.

        • MissNomer

          You’re cruising the internet opining on an article you are not qualified to opine on.

          • Nancy Jolly Smith

            Something tells me that Mr. Deplorable has no idea what opine means lol.

  • DeplorableVI

    American women have never been as self empowered and independent as they are today. At least 2 generations of american women have been self sufficient and as financially independent as they want to be. AMErican women have More government services available to them today than in all American history h

    • DeplorableVI

      ***…than in all American history and American women have never been unhappier. It makes me wonder who the real assholes are.

      • MissNomer

        What makes you the authority on the happiness of American women, sparky?

        • DeplorableVI

          Watching white American women march in public while wearing pussy hats or dressed in giant pink velvet vulvas taught me everything I need to know. Lol. F in as$holes.

          • MissNomer

            I’ve been in two of those marches and I assure you we were having a blast. I understand that you’d like to imagine we’re unhappy, but it’s not true. We are knowledgeable, powerful, fierce, and sometimes fucking infuriated, but we are not unhappy. It’s the ones who don’t march in pink hats with cat ears who are miserable. And you, apparently. You sound so very sad.

          • DeplorableVI

            It sounds like you have a wonderful life. I remember marchers like you spitting at me when I came home on leave. My uniform triggered those marchers and they called me a baby killer. The pro abortion marchers accused me of being a baby killer. I’m jealous of the swell life you think you live. Hey, hey LBJ, how many abortions can we have today?

          • MissNomer

            My life’s pretty good, thanks, because I don’t live with an asshole, but I have to admit that every day is not as much fun as a Women’s March day, because I am honest.

            No, you don’t remember that, because it didn’t happen, sweetie. You’re making it all up, just like you made up ” American women have never been unhappier,” and then tried to change the subject, because that is obviously something you know nothing about. Oh, and there are no “pro-abortion” marchers. There are pro-choice marchers, and they are the ones who get called baby killers by the fetus fetishists, which is why no one listens to the fetus fetishists. We know the difference between a zygote, an embryo, a fetus, and a baby, even if you forced-birthers don’t. I’ll bet your life would improve if you stopped making things up. Why not give it a try? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34d79ed0b877428a0dc84cbf50a325875faa7e52318a177ad483809f91ed520c.jpg

          • DeplorableVI

            You sound like a hysterical babbling idiot. Can I send you some batteries for your vibrator?

          • MissNomer
          • DeplorableVI

            I remember marchers like you at Newark airport when I came home on leave. They spit at me because of the uniform I wore. They chanted that I was a baby killer. The pro abortion marchers spit at me and called me a baby killer. Hey hey LBJ, how many abortions can we have today.

          • MissNomer

            But wait, you were saying the Women’s Marches are proof of our unhappiness – why are you talking about things that did not happen to you 50 years ago? There were no women’s marches at the Newark airport, hon. Women’s Marches started in 2017. Besides, no Viet Nam vets were spit on when they returned home. That is an urban myth that whiny-ass broflakes like to tell to portray themselves as victims. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.html

          • DeplorableVI

            I keep trying to reply to you but my posts get deleted. That’s how the left is, no such thing as free conversation.

          • MissNomer

            Poor baby, “the left” is just following you around the internet, persecuting you, because you are so very important “the left” cannot allow your words to be seen. @[email protected]

            Suck it up, sparky. Don’t be such a victim.

  • Tomasz Szewczyk

    Yeah… why do the “strong women” always go for the asshole. Maybe, just maybeee YOU are encouraging assholes by prefearing them over all the nice guys,.. you know, “uugh he waas too nice, uugh I love his “rough” manlines” … no hes not manly hes an asshole and you dear are a stupid cunt 🙂

  • Onholyservicebound

    -Singleton makes excuse for why they’re single and can’t keep a stable relationship-
    News at 11

    • DeWayne Stafford

      Holding on to an abusive sadist makes no sense.

    • MissNomer

      You just described MGTOWs.

  • Mick Bodine

    And yet it’s the assholes who always seem to get the women….. and she says, “there is just something about him”

    • DeWayne Stafford

      Women with low self esteem choose abusive boys. They can grow out of it

    • MissNomer

      If that were true, I’m sure you’d be very popular.

    • MissNomer

      That’s a myth that men who hate women tell themselves in order to feel better.

    • Jim Mason

      What Rich Luna is saying is sadly true. Its referred to by some women as them having a thing for the “bad boys”. Its that projection of strength and confidence that often attracts a woman. The problem is that those “bad boys” know exactly how to use that projection to make themselves perceived as strong to get what they want, and the women who think they are too smart to get played by those types of men, almost always do. I had a buddy of mine prove it to me once years ago. He gave me his girlfriends pendant necklace that she bought him to wear, a sort of female brand saying that my buddy belonged to her kind of thing, and told me to wear it when we went out to a club. He told me 3 things. First act like you couldn’t care whether you attracted anyone’s attention or not. Second make sure that necklace pendant was outside of my shirt and visible at all times, and 3rd completely ignore the first 3 women who come up to you and try to strike up a conversation. They will not be happy at first he said, but they also will see you as a challenge and they won’t give up without trying harder. He said if they don’t come back for a second try other women there, who would no doubt have noticed tit all, would. I’m sad to say that not only did I engage in that manipulative behavior, but it worked. There were 3 women who attempted to hit on me within the first half hour we were there and I rudely ignored all 3. They were put off at first, but 2 ended up giving me their numbers anyway and a 3rd different woman hit on me and bought me drinks. After that night I dated all 3 for nearly a year before moving out west to Cali. I never told any of them that I was leaving, and I never contacted them since. There was another bit of advice my buddy gave me about the average woman, never give them anything unless they work for it. Not my time, not my affection, and not my attention. Sadly that all worked very well too. I did that for a few years and somehow managed not to get an STD, a woman pregnant, or shot by the husbands or boyfriends of any of those women I messed with who were married or otherwise spoken for. It was sick and ignorant and I am certainly not proud of it now, and my wife didn’t think highly of it either when we first started dating about 15 years ago. Since I married her 12 years ago I’ve been the genuine strong man for her and our children and she has and always will be the only woman for me. She is truly a strong woman, and not the kind of phony strong women who feel the need to declare it but yet will go home from the club with the kind of man I used to be only to be used, and eventually ghosted.

  • Rich Luna

    choice is not something totality provides. if each in an equation is a symbol same none with meaning nor a mechanism for discovering its value the formula isnt. or isnt it. the point is there is not enough information to make an assesment based on facts. then there is the common sense. i had friends in town? did any ask for me? were any from high school? that is how far back to my start goes….the mind tech on the brain pain never stops will never stop…interesting community value systm. how many educational facilities k-8 remain? any? common sense…there are problems. the totality of the silence makes it impossible to determine…? Love rich chs 82

  • truth
  • Georg Kurg

    If your friendship sucks the relationship isn’t going to be any better. Most people don’t even wait a bit while the hormones balance out. it’s like bangg, booom, woaaah waa wee. Look here look there, don’t we look great in all these honeymoon type scenarios for a few months. Nobody takes time anymore. I get asked if I’m gay and it’s like: I don’t owe you cock, sex isn’t a one way thing, wait while I figure you out and see if you’re worth my time and if I’m wasting your time, however long that takes. When you think, yeah holly crap yeah this is working, we’re doing better together no matter what we’re doing etc.. Then there’s something there that can grow into something that has actual substance to it and not just lots of happy memories of things that you could not possibly not enjoy.

  • Shawn Armstrong
  • Joshua Hudgins

    Strong women can’t handle strong men so they call them a$$holes?

    • MissNomer

      No, sweetie, assholes are weak. If you’re an asshole to women, you’re so weak you have to tear someone else down to make you feel better. Strong men are not assholes to women.

      • Jim Mason

        No Honey, Joshua is actually right. He’s just not for the reasons he thinks he is. Strong(heterosexual, since this article implies such) women are attracted to what they perceive as strong men. The problem is those strong women’s perception are often based on shallow and superficial attributes. Its only after they’ve fallen for, bedded, or spent some time with that man they think is strong, that they find out the guy underneath that mask of a strong exterior is really the exact type of a$$hole they say and think they are too strong and smart to get fooled by.

        • MissNomer

          Darling, don’t presume to tell a heterosexual woman what heterosexual women want. You have no idea.

          • Jim Mason

            Honey, don’t presume to ask a heterosexual man what his motives are for making a valid point just because you don’t like it. As for my post, your just triggered cause it was those points I made about what some women want fit you to well.

          • MissNomer

            Oh right, I’m upset. @[email protected] Yeah, that must be it.

          • Jim Mason

            Yes that’s exactly it. The reason it upsets you is that it’s a truth you do not want to believe, even though deep down you know it is 100% true and that you are guilty of that behavior. You know, just like a lot of the women who engage in most of the man hating behavior do, that you are guilty of chasing that stereotypical strong guy I described. Or as Heather and Ashley put it, the stereotypical bad boy. So when anyone brings up that inescapable fact its triggers you and gets you upset. So you lash out at anyone, especially men, who point that truth out to you, with insults and name calling, and all the other childish tantrum like behavior you exhibit. It’s your defense mechanism that enables you to not have to admit to yourself that you are guilty of that behavior and, by extension, partly responsible for the pain the men of your past have caused you. For you it’s much easier to lash out at men and blame them for the mistakes and bad choices you have made than to ever take any real responsibility in your life for the bad choices you have made or the consequences you have had to suffer because of them. So again I say it’s not presumption on my part when what I have pointed out to you is true, and because women like you have been guilty of it more often than most of you will ever admit to.

          • MissNomer

            Let me guess – you got your psychiatric degree at Trump University. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9dade9132dd401202f92a3df71a7b289cd32abff82a7f779bba745176c45d2c.jpg

          • Ashley Henney

            Another one, just like that vanilla, whatever her name was, woman in these replies who through around insults whenever she didn’t have a valid point. Another pretend feminist whose ego can’t handle a man being right. Yet women like you try standing up for my gender???. It would be laughable if it weren’t so ridiculous. I’ll tell you the same thing I told her in an earlier reply. It’s you and women like you, more than anyone or anything else, with your childish and often misandric insults that have held us all back and made gender equality even harder to achieve. You can’t come up with a legitimate rebuttal or anything meaningful to add to insults is all you got. Please don’t stand up for my gender anymore. Your kimd of help only justifies and perpetuates the misogyny we already have to deal with.

          • Jim Mason

            Well said Ashley. The funniest part of her insult, aside from the fact she’s already used that meme before, is that I voted for Hillary not Trump. I never was a Trump supporter.

          • Jim Mason

            Lmao, yup when you can’t argue against the truth, a failed attempt at an insulting meme is all ya got. Definitely proof positive how upset you are. I rest my case.

          • Heather Hunter

            Yet another example of toxic femininity that I was pointing out in my earlier posts. Missnomer cannot deal with the fact that a man made a valid point about her motivations and her mentality that she either cannot or will not acknowledge to herself or anyone else. For her to admit that Jim was right about her would destroy that whole well crafted identity that she has built for herself where she sees herself at the underdog oppressed woman single-handedly fighting the evil men of the world. So she lashes out at any man who wanders into these types of article’s reply sections to post their own replies and attacks them for stating truths that she sees as threatening to her identity as a woman, and devaluing to her as a person.

            The rub, as the saying goes, is that the only one threatening her identity and devaluing her is herself. She devalues herself by living in a fantasy world where she believes that men as a gender are somehow her enemy, when it is her own choices and her own childish misandric mentality that is her one and only enemy. It is that enemy, and that enemy alone, that threatens her identity as a woman, devalues her as a person, and turns her into the stereotypical misandrist that a lot of men describe all feminists as being. She acts that way with her childish, tantrum style insults here and in doing so reinforces that very stereotype and encourages the more misogynist men to both view her and treat her like the second class citizen, misandrist, man hating woman she is. She cannot see past her own hate and because of that she will never be able to see or admit the truth of what has been said about her by people like those who have took her to task for her ignorant replies in this comment section. Oh and for the record, I was and always will be a Hillary supporter, and the only thing I have for trump is contempt, Just incase you try accusing me of being a trump supporter. Also your bastardization of a scene grab for the Star Trek Cartoon into a hateful and ignorant meme doesn’t apply to me.

          • Rob

            As always Heather very well written. Missnomer is a very hateful bitter woman, She has no other way of dealing with her hate than to troll comment sections like this in order to spread that hate around so that she can feel better about herself. Ten will get you twenty that she is a house bound woman, either by physical disability, or mental disability, and her computer is her only real link to the outside world. She most likely has no one in her life that she can depend on or that shows her any love and kindness which further aggravates her bitterness and hatred, and since she has no life outside of her home she turns to the only outlet she has. Her computer. Notice how she cannot offer even one valid response in rebuttal to Jim’s post. First all she could do is try to joke by sarcastically admitting she was upset, which I suspect wasn;t really sarcasm. I suspect she actually was upset and used sarcasm to mask it in order to save face. Next when Jim expands on his meaning, she not only cannot offer any rebuttal response she instead regurgitates some meme she’s already used in this reply section. A good rule of thumb in these online debates is, once your opponent resorts to using memes rather than actually replying to someone’s valid counter points, then they have already lost. Misnomer lost. It doesn’t matter what how many times she replies now, or how many memes she uses, from this point forward. Too many people here in this reply section have not only debunked the few points she made, but laid bare all too well, her ignorance, hatefulness, and as Heather and Ashley so eloquently put it, her misandry.

          • Rob

            As always Heather very well written. Missnomer is a very hateful bitter woman, She has no other way of dealing with her hate than to troll comment sections like this in order to spread that hate around so that she can feel better about herself. Ten will get you twenty that she is a house bound woman, either by physical disability, or mental disability, and her computer is her only real link to the outside world. She most likely has no one in her life that she can depend on or that shows her any love and kindness which further aggravates her bitterness and hatred, and since she has no life outside of her home she turns to the only outlet she has. Her computer. Notice how she cannot offer even one valid response in rebuttal to Jim’s post. First all she could do is try to joke by sarcastically admitting she was upset, which I suspect wasn;t really sarcasm. I suspect she actually was upset and used sarcasm to mask it in order to save face. Next when Jim expands on his meaning, she not only cannot offer any rebuttal response she instead regurgitates some meme she’s already used in this reply section. A good rule of thumb in these online debates is, once your opponent resorts to using memes rather than actually replying to someone’s valid counter points, then they have already lost. Misnomer lost. It doesn’t matter how many times she replies to any of us now, or how many memes she uses, from this point forward. She has proven herself to be exactly what all of us said she is and there is no way for her to disprove that or save face over it at all no matter what she says, does, thinks, or feels. Too many people here in this reply section have not only debunked the few points she made, but laid bare all too well, her ignorance, hatefulness, and as Heather and Ashley so eloquently put it, her misandry.

          • Rob

            Well said Heather. Missnomaer is so full of herself and her hate of any man who brings up any truths about her, who she is on the inside, and how she feels that it makes her feel weak and vulnerable. To someone like her feeling vulnerable enrages her so much she has to lash out at the men making her feel that way. So she attacks in retaliation by casting aspersions on a man’s sex organ, accusing them of being Trump supporters or anything else her obsessive compulsive mind can come up with that she thinks will hurt those who hurt her most. She’s clearly been hurt so much by men that she can’t stand it when a man can read her like an open book. She’s made up this fantasy in her mind where she thinks she’s this complicated, sophisticated. And empowered woman bravely standing up to the evil men of the world. When in reality she is just a vulnerable little girl with a fragile ego, deathly afraid some man will see through her false exterior and see the scared little girl inside hiding in a corner afraid of being hurt. It’s sad and I feel sorry for her. Anyone with so much fear and insecurity, hate of men, and self loathing must live a miserable life.

          • Rick Pierce
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          • dckhead_con_artist

            yeah we have every idea. Jeremy Meeks, a former drug gang banger and now so-called male model, should not be able to get a single woman, but his Instagram has 1.8 million followers and women drooling over him. On the other hand you’re average, plumber, research scientist, or mathematician, mostly males, are usually without female companionship. So average to to beautiful women go after the 10% of Jeremy Meeks or wealthy playboys until their looks dry up after age 35. After that these same women write useless articles like this complaining about men.

          • Laraine Ryan

            Average men are usually without female companionship? Where do you live? Also you admit women don’t count when they are over 35, so why should men count when they don’t have money ? If you think it’s that way, why complain about the other side doing their thing?

          • Jim Mason

            You missed dickhead’s point. First off he was using his description as an example of the pattern of behavior he was describing. He was pointing out the scenario about women who chase bad boys, that Heather posted about above in another reply to this article.( She described it in better detail that I can, see her post for clarification) She described in detail about a lot of women’s tendency to chase after the “stereotypical bad boy”. Jeremy Meeks fits that description. Also, as dickhead put it(LOL sorry its tough to refer to a poster as dickhead without laughing even though he chose that name) so do those “wealthy playboy types”. He was not saying that all women do not count after the age of 35. He was saying that the kind of women who chase those bad boy types tend to burn themselves out and play themselves out by the time they are 35 and that those women and only those women become so bitter and hateful of all men by that time, that they end up writing articles like this one expressing a clear anger towards the entire male gender by accusing them all of being assholes, rather than stop and reevaluate their life and reexamine the bad choices they made that got them to where they ended up in life. They would rather write articles like this one trying to say all men are assholes rather than admit to themselves that the problem isn’t all men, but that the real problem is that they foolishly tend to choose the wrong men. The fact is those types of women chose to chase those types of men to the exclusion of all other more honorable and caring men, who were probably always around them, who would not have hurt them, cheated on them, and/or left them. Women who chase those bad boys often also choose to stay with them even after they have been abused, lied to, and cheated on by them, rather then leave them and make more healthy choices about the men they have relationships with or marry. So going with your last sentence Laraine, the other side is already doing “their thing”. That coupled with your question about “why should men count if they do not have money?” is proof positive that you, just like a lot of other women, subscribe to the mentality that he described(not comfortable calling him dickhead since I do not know him, regardless of the fact that that term is the username he chose).

          • Laraine Ryan

            I don’t think “chasing” any particular man is going to cause a beautiful woman’s looks to just “dry up” in her late 30s. In fact, beautiful women at 40 may look better than homely women of 18. What beautiful woman ends up bitter and hateful? I was arguing someplace else that NOT being beautiful didn’t necessarily make a woman bitter and hateful, as the person I was debating tried to assert.

          • Jim Mason

            I don’t think a woman’s looks “dry up” after 30 either Laranie. I also find women over 40 as being beautiful, often times more so than women who are much younger. However the women who end up bitter and hateful are those who have spent too much time in their lives chasing after the stereotypical bad boy only to end up being treated badly, abused, cheated on, lied to, etc by those bad boys. Because of that they tend to get very jaded, hateful, and bitter after having spent years chasing those types of men. Quite often it is exactly those types of women who are the most resentful of men in general to the extent that they tend to brand the entire male gender as being at fault for the behaviors those bad boys exhibited that hurt them. So by extension they then push the ridiculously biased narrative that somehow all men and masculinity in general as somehow being the problem. They do this instead of admitting the much simpler truth. That being that they chose those asshole types of their own free will and then chose to stay with them rather than seek out more stable, caring, and emotionally generous men to be their dates, boyfriends or husbands. Like others have said. If one, be they man or woman, wishes yo not end up dealing with assholes then stop attracting to you and/stop being attracted to them to the extend of chasing them.

          • Jim Mason

            I don’t believe a woman’s looks dry up after after 35 either. The point I believe dickhead was trying to express is that. The types of women who spend so much time chasing the stereo typical bad boy end up becoming bitter and hateful of all men because they foolishly tend to blame all men as a gender and masculinity for the actions of those bad boys they chose to chase after and be with, rather than admit the harsher truth that they chose those types of men and because of that choice share the responsibility of the pain those men put them through. So after years of engaging in that self destructive dating behavior it can and often does take a serious toll on their personalities and by extension their looks. Years of unhappiness can and often does negatively impact a person’s looks. Rather than admit that their pursuit of those bad boy types of men who tend to cheat on them, lie to them, and even abuse them, coupled with their tendency to stay in dysfunctional relationships with them is what makes them bitter and hateful and, as I said, prone to write articles like this, blaming.men as a whole gender, or some other kind of man hating rhetoric. That’s is the point I believe dickhead was trying to make

          • Jim Mason

            Just to clarify, for the most part, I often find women over 35 to be far more beautiful, unless of course they fall into the bitter and hateful category I described in my previous reply.

          • Heather Hunter

            I think dickhead could have made his point better and less crudely, but essentially he did have a valid point. But I have to disagree with you Larane about your ascertain that he was trying to say that a woman not being beautiful would make her bitter and hateful. As I’ve said, and Jim has repeated, the types of women who end up becoming bitter and hateful of men, especially towards the whole gender, are almost always the same ones who wasted their younger years dating, chasing, and God forbid, even marrying and having kids with those stereo typical bad boys. Then one day reality came crashing in on them after they were lied to, cheated on, or abused once too often and they finally came to the realization that they wasted too many years on those types of men.

            Instead of realizing that it was their choice to chase after and be with them to spite knowing how destructive to their physical, mental, and emotional well being those men where, they turned bitter and hateful to all men. Such an attitude breeds misandry. Very often those types of women never take responsibility for allowing those monsters into their lives and staying with them. So they join feminist groups with the sole purpose to avenge their pain on the male gender, and/or they write articles like this one trying to fan the flames of misandry by branding all men and all masculinity as toxic. Not all man and masculinity is toxic, to say otherwise is biased and bigoted. The sad part is that a lot of my younger feminist sisters who are new to the cause engage in that behavior, subscribe to it’s beliefs and braiwashing, and thereby turn the focus from gender equality(where it should be) to little more than man bashing misandry. Reading through some of the replies here that exhibit the most insulting of men illustrate that point clearly.

      • Joshua Hudgins

        Lately it seems it is the feminists and the misogynists trying to tear people down.And they both claim to be the strong ones.

  • Jim Mason

    Interesting article, and in theory sounds like a very reasonable tactic for a strong woman to take in the dating world. The problem is that the author didn’t really do their homework when it comes to strong women and what they tend to be attracted to and to what they think a “loser” Is.

    Firstly strong women, or men for that matter as this concept is not gender specific, tend to be attracted to what they think and perceive as strength. Not always though, as this story leaves out the strong types who go for who they perceive as weaker as someone they can control, but for the sake of this story we will stick to the strength attracting strength concept.

    Any woman, since it was women this story is focused on, who identifies as strong falls into 2 categories. 1. Those who have been around the block and hurt a few times but rose above it to make themselves better people but have plenty of baggage and often are far too picky in their choices of perspective partners. 2. The perceived, often wrongly so, strong woman who is disconnected from her emotions due to some trauma, mental illness, or both that causes her not to feel love, or empathy in the typical way others do. Those types of women tend to be a danger to themselves and others and often commit crimes like murder, or like the various and vicious cases of male genital mutilation perpetrated on men that have abused them or even just on men who’ve cheated on them or whom they believe to been unfaithful. These stories show up in the news quite often it seems.

    As to what constitutes a loser, the term itself is subjective. It could mean cheater, liar, abuser, or broke, jobless mamas boy who spends more time playing video games than spending time with his girlfriend. Or for the strong woman who is attracted to a strong man, they may, and often mistakenly do, see anyone with money, power, both physical and personality wise, and influence as strong. While they, all to often, see the average good natured guy with an average life, job, and finances who happens to be a bit timid, less confident or even “too nice” as a “loser”. The term “loser” is so subjective in its application as well as meaning to today’s woman, and this subject, that it’s use as a factor in the authors flawed research, makes it problematic at best, and completely invalidating of the research for the story at worst. Neither makes for a true and thought provoking piece. Instead it reads as a fluff piece designed to speak to a certain demographic of women who need validation in order to feel empowered.

    True strong women, as in the first example tend to be attracted to strength. Or at least what they see or believe to be strength in their potential partners. So the timid, average guy, doesn’t factor in to their choices at this point. Problem is they won’t know if the strength they perceive in their perspective partner is the 1st or 2nd kind until they either get abused, cheated on, or end up having that person ignore them for the latest video game. By that time, if they’ve fallen pray to that type of “loser” they will have already spent too much of their precious time on them. That’s what makes this story way off base and not very well researched.

    As to the 2nd type of strong woman, she either dates losers habitually, nearly exlusively, because of her emotional state or mental illness. The reasons for that could be daddy issues, a pathological need to be controlled or to do the controlling, or just learned behavior based on a dysfunctional childhood. Either way both types of “Strong women” waste significant time on losers and by the time they actually stop that cycle both types are damaged beyond repair.

    So strong women, also a subjective term, not only my fall prey to the type of loser this story references, but more often than not give away their strength to that loser. Sorry to whomever wrote this article but you need to dig a lot deeper into this issue, poll a much larger and diverse group of women, and above all don’t go looking for the conclusions that fit your ideological view and instead focus on truth and fact.

  • William White

    These silly gender feminist misandry crap achieves nothing. Strong women, is code for gender feminist misandrist who are man haters, the tide is clear. MGTOW and teaching our sons the work of Dr. Helen Smith.
    Marriage and even dealing wiht gender feminists is life draining. Learn there is more to life.

    #MeToo is a fraud, Donegan is under the radar pushing a Dworkin-Agenda, Hysteria. All XY are rapists, DV perps. And then watch the MSNBC, CNN agendas show young girls with Future Female shirts, pink hat kitty crowd types. Andrea (Mtn Troll) Dworkin’s goal end hetro-sexuality.

    The author here seems to support and advocate for that, it appears.

  • Mark Neil

    But when men behave in the same way this writer is espousing, they are called man-babies, told they have a failure to launch, or worse…called selfish (as if women are entitled to their attention and resources).

    Moreover, there has been a shift in expectations, where some women’s standards have become entirely unreasonable, while their own need to reciprocate is rejected as sexist. We see this in online dating stats, where 80% of men are judged to be bellow average, but women are viewed to be proportionately on the expected bell curve. As such, the entire notion that sometimes, a relationship, especially a marriage, takes hard work, often goes out the window. If it isn’t easy, it is discarded as “unhealthy” (this isn’t to say there aren’t unhealthy relationships, for both sexes, just saying, too often, difficult is being labelled “unhealthy”, and that’s a problem)

    • Tomasz Szewczyk

      There you go, a statistical evidence that a few aphas get to shag all the women and every man gets to be called a cunt… fantastic. But obviously we are responsible for womens tastes in men. There are predatory men out there and they are very succesfull like you say you have to be in the top percentile but then you just get all the women you want. Women feed those asholes those are the same “popular guys” over and over again, normal dudes dont even get a chance they do get called assholes though because womens perception is that most of the men they dated threated them like cheap meat… the fact is that the most of the guys they dated were just 10% of hypersucesfull asholes that didnt care. Basically a few guys get all the ladies and all the guys get the blame. Because we are not handsome enough to be one of the womens choices in that 20% magical get laid place.

      • Toni-Marie Hudson

        Oh just get over yourself Tomasz. You talk about women like we’re just pickings that men get to have sex with…and you wonder why you have no luck with them? Your misogynist attitude is why they avoid you like the plague.

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          My misogyny is why they cream them self’s and think they are something super special just because I didnt treat them like a cunt… You can scream that I dont get laid all you want Im 6.2 16st of muscle with a 140 IQ (Not the best but a bit smarter than your average bear) and I am pretty well off living in a villa with a pool on a Mediterranean island… Im going to go to the beach party find some 20 something tourists to shag now, good luck with your cats and dogs, I love animals but I only fuck humans 😛

          • Phreon

            Damn you have a chip on your shoulder. On behalf of other men, please shut up, you’re making it harder for the rest of us to have intelligent conversations.

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            Just a realist… a disgusting one at that but yeah. I would gladly stop ages ago if I would not be taunted… I dont like being taunted… and BTW Intelligent Conversations? Where the F you see a “inteligent” conversation. If I may, youre in the wrooong fucking place for that. This is not your Golf club this is the Real face of humanity. Here men try to counter argue a slanderous bias article just to have some femsupremacists shout ad-homminem insults… usually telling them they cant get laid… I hazard its a projection.

      • Toni-Marie Hudson

        Btw, if you are resentful of being judged on your appearance, try being a woman. We are judged on ours far more than you men are. A friend of mine received nasty unsolicited messages on her facebook just today from a guy telling her she was fat and ugly and he wouldn’t want to use her as a disposable fuck object as a result. Stop feeling fookin sorry for yourself. Ever hear about good looking men hitching up with old crinkly ladies? Not much…but look at how many old crinkly men can bag attractive young women…..yeah, it is you men that require good looks more than women.

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          Booohooo wamen have it much worse they allways had it much worse I mean partiarhy uuuuuu aiiieeeee you know they had to take care of the house when their men went off to die in their deffence. I mean they are forced to live in this terrible awful comfortable dry warm place with ready acces to food and water who MEN biult for them (I never saw a wamen brick layer… why? it pays well I did know one lassy once who worked in demolition she was bro 🙂 I mean the tragedy the indignity the horror, you have to put MAKEUP ON!! YOU ARE RIGHT ITS UNACCEPTABLE!!!

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          And the mail that your “theoretical friend”… how is that different to the torrent of toxic mental diarrhea you are flinging at me for wronthink? I BET you will be changing subjects avoiding direct answer and playing all the idiotic games (You will start from ad-homminem as a smug cheesy growler that you are) I dont know you I never said a word to you? How are you different from your friends bully? And try to make the reason something that is not absolutely sexist.

          • Morwenna Yaoing

            Not interested in getting into a discussion about anything at all but the irony of the statement “You will start from ad-homminem(sic) as a smug cheesy growler that you are” didn’t entirely escape me

          • Tomasz Szewczyk

            I know its so toxic and hypocritical and fucked up… heheh. She will think again before attacking anyone on the internet or otherwise. 😉

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          If we dont have looks we need to have money… or we are flustrated loosers failures to start assholes trash and on and on and on. According to you the fairy magic wamen creature deserves EVERYTHING for NOTHING AT ALL. Femisuppremacist misandrist much?

        • Tomasz Szewczyk

          Its because of your Inflated and unrealistic expectations you make your self look like someone much better looking you fool a handsome guy into sex and them cry when he runs in the morning after seeing your real face…. uuuh the assholes who leave “perfectly good wamen” , how is that different from the guy lying about who He really was? And how is that in any way shape or form disprove the FACT that 90% of wamen throw them selfs on the 20% of most affluent men and piss on the rest creating a oversupply problem for those guys who all the wamen want to fuck? How is that his problem, do those wamen have no agency? Are you having cognitive problems? Or are you just dogmatic? I WISHED wamen would not act like that rewarding toxic masculine behavior but when I say anything i get insane shreeks like you jumping on with the same cunt arguments of wamen supremacist.

  • Heather

    Since my ex Jim keeps getting his post deleted here probably because the woman who wrote the articles does not like her biased views taken apart so completely, which he did and did with truth and fact. I’ll post it for him. Here is Jim’s post, we will see how long it takes for her to delete it again, only this time since a woman posted it instead of a man. A woman who happens to know that what Jim says is fact.

    Interesting article, and in theory sounds like a very reasonable tactic for a strong woman to take in the dating world. The problem is that the author didn’t really do their homework when it comes to strong women and what they tend to be attracted to and to what they think an “asshole” Is.

    Firstly strong women, or men for that matter as this concept is not gender specific, tend to be attracted to what they think and perceive as strength. Not always though, as this story leaves out the strong types who go for who they perceive as weaker as someone they can control, but for the sake of this story we will stick to the strength attracting strength concept.

    Any woman, since it was women this story is focused on, who identifies as strong falls into 2 categories. 1. Those who have been around the block and hurt a few times but rose above it to make themselves better people, although not always since those experiences are just as likely to make them, bitter, distrustful, unable to open up emotionally, or down right hateful of men in general. Either way that type tends to have plenty of baggage and often are far too picky in their choices of perspective future partners. 2. The perceived, often wrongly so, strong woman who is disconnected from her emotions due to some trauma, mental illness, or both that causes her not to feel love, or empathy in the typical way others do. Those types of women tend to be a danger to themselves and others and often commit crimes like murder, or like the various and vicious cases of male genital mutilation perpetrated on men that have abused them or even just on men who’ve cheated on them or whom they believe to been unfaithful. These stories show up in the news quite often it seems.

    As to what constitutes an asshole, the term itself is subjective. It could mean cheater, liar, abuser, or broke, jobless mamas boy who spends more time playing video games than spending time with his girlfriend or wife. For the strong woman who is attracted to a strong man, they may, and often mistakenly do, see, shallowly of course, anyone with money, power, both physical and personality wise, and influence as strong while those traits may inherently make that strong man arrogant, egotistical, selfish, and/or narcasistic. Which, I think the majority of us men and women, can agree are often characteristics of an asshole. While strong women, all too often, see the average good natured guy with an average life, job, and finances who happens to be a bit timid, less confident or even “too nice”(also all subjective terms just like the types of terms this author’s story bases it’s assumptions and concluscions on) as an asshole of the loser variety, in their subjective view of course.

    The term “asshole” is so subjective in its application in this story, as well as in its meaning to today’s woman, and this subject in general, that it’s use as a vital factor in the authors flawed research, makes it problematic at best, and completely invalidating of the research for the story at worst. Neither makes for a factual and thought provoking piece. Instead it reads as a fluff piece designed to speak to a certain demographic of women who need validation in order to feel empowered and somehow not vulnerable to wasting their time on the assholes of the world. Which is complete BS, and proven so time and time again. We hear about, read about it online, see it on the news, or see true stories about it on true crime shows like snapped, forensic files, and the like all the time.

    True strong women, as in the first example tend to be attracted to strength. Or at least what they see or believe to be strength in their potential partners. So the timid, average guy, doesn’t factor in to their choices at this point unless he’s somehow good at pretending to be strong enough to fool a woman into believing he is the type of strong they are looking for and attracted to, but that’s rarely the case. Problem is self identified strong women won’t know if the strength they perceive in their perspective partner is actually strength or just an asshole wearing a strong persona, until that strong woman either gets abused, cheated on, ghosted and/just dumped, or ends up having that person ignore them for the latest video game. By that time, when they’ve invariably fallen pray to any type of “asshole” then they will have already spent too much of their precious time on them. Also the fact that those very same self identified strong women tend to gravitate from one asshole to another disproves the ridiculous notion that strong women would rather be alone. Sure they may say they would rather be alone, but that’s usually just angry girl talk amongst their friends whenever a new asshole in their life burns them, lies, cheats, or just dumps them. Their actions often reflect the fact that they would not rather be alone, and before long they’ve got themselves reeled in like a fish on a hook by yet another asshole fishing for the self identified strong woman to play their game on. Those facts completely invalidate this story and it’s entire premise.

    As to the 2nd type of strong woman, she either dates assholes habitually, and nearly exlusively, because of her often damaged emotional state or mental illness or both. The reasons for that could be daddy issues, a pathological need to be controlled or to do the controlling as in a revenge mind frame trying to pay other men back for the crimes men in her past have perpetrated on her, or just learned behavior based on a dysfunctional childhood. Either way both types of “Strong women” waste significant time on assholes and by the time they actually stop that cycle, usually later in life after they’ve largely ruined their lives, both types are damaged beyond repair.

    So strong women, also a subjective term, not only fall prey to the type of asshole this story references more often than the author wishes to believe or even acknowledge, would rather not be alone than date an asshole, but more often than not they give away their strength to those assholes willingly and almost eagerly at times.

    Sorry to be so blunt in my critique to this article and the aithor wrote it, but you need to dig a lot deeper into this issue, poll a much larger and diverse group of women, and above all don’t go looking for the conclusions that fit your ideological view and instead focus on truth and fact.

    • Rob

      I give it a couple minutes at most Heather. The author clearly does not like looking foolish with her article so thoroughly torn apart

      • Heather

        Tell him its no problem, I hate when blanket generalizations are applied to either gender. AT least Jim’s post was based in fact not on the generalization of women but the use of subjective terminology like the author used to describe men and the idea that all strong women would rather be alone than date the wrong guy. Try telling that nonsense to the women who got their dating advice from authors like the one who wrote this article and watching shows like sex and the city.

  • gretchen

    I totally agree. I’m happier alone..no more drama..stress..walking on eggshells! I’m 66 now..time for ME finally! Love spending time at home with my dog..this was a great article!

  • Rob Jones

    Yup I struck a nerve, that’s. But then some people do not like having the mirror turned back on themselves so they can see the truth of what they are. That’s basically what my post that got deleted minutes ago did. It must have been more effective than I thought, because it took exactly 4 minutes for my post to get deleted. I know I counted and I was on the phone with you when you told me it was gone. Lets see how long this takes to get deleted. That author must be frothing at the mouth like a mad dog now with her hands shaking from anger hovering over the key board with the moderation window open on her admin account at this site just waiting to delete my next post. That makes 4 of mine and 2 of Jim’s that got deleted and one of yours still in moderation limbo. I guess I must be the author, or this site’s administrators favorite. I’m flattered. LMAO.

  • KillerofApes

    Going WGTOW huh lol. Must be pathetic losers who think you’re entitled to George Clooney while you look and act like Amy Schumer.

    • MissNomer

      Why is it a failure when women prefer to live alone, but not when men do? By your logic, MGTOWs are pathetic losers who think they’re entitled to Jennifer Lawrence while they look and act like Steve Bannon.

      (BTW, Amy Schumer is a goddess who is richer and exponentially more successful and well adjusted than you could ever hope to be.)

      • KillerofApes

        But MGTOWs are pathetic losers according to womyn, so WGTOWs must be also. It’s always amusing when communists attempt to measure success by how much capital their “goddesses” have amassed. Schumer will always be a fat ugly pig, and no amount of money on earth can change that.

        • MissNomer

          No, sweetie, MGTOWs are pathetic losers, according to you. And how amusing that you chose to misrepresent how I measure success by seizing on only one criterion and calling me a communist (communists are not known for valuing capital – you know that, right? Right?) Amy Schumer is successful by any measure you might name, and well-adjusted to boot. She knows her value as a person is not determined by insecure little men who attack her appearance. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b52c506ecf4907fd83dd496c25d29fe25d67bd9fedbfe5056fa112faa5bccdb.png

          • KillerofApes

            Lol Miss Piggy Schumer is the whole reason Netflix did away with the star rating system. Her show got clobbered by the public and she nearly had a stroke over it. She definitely sounds very secure lol. But hey when you’re a 400lb womyn with the face of a mackerel, the only thing that’s going to be secure for you is yet another fat milky latte.

            And I love womyn’s ideas and actions. They’re great with recipes.

  • Jim Mason

    Since it was my own post that got deleted by the author in her petty fashion becausd did not like that a man so expertly debated the points of her flawed article and took it apart completely and successfully, and in regards to the subsequent posts about it she also deleted for the same reasons,I have chosen to repost it myself.

    Interesting article, and in theory sounds like a very reasonable tactic for a strong woman to take in the dating world. The problem is that the author didn’t really do their homework when it comes to strong women and what they tend to be attracted to and to what they think an “asshole” Is.

    Firstly strong women, or men for that matter as this concept is not gender specific, tend to be attracted to what they think and perceive as strength. Not always though, as this story leaves out the strong types who go for who they perceive as weaker as someone they can control, but for the sake of this story we will stick to the strength attracting strength concept.

    Any woman, since it was women this story is focused on, who identifies as strong falls into 2 categories. 1. Those who have been around the block and hurt a few times but rose above it to make themselves better people, although not always since those experiences are just as likely to make them, bitter, distrustful, unable to open up emotionally, or down right hateful of men in general. Either way that type tends to have plenty of baggage and often are far too picky in their choices of perspective future partners. 2. The perceived, often wrongly so, strong woman who is disconnected from her emotions due to some trauma, mental illness, or both that causes her not to feel love, or empathy in the typical way others do. Those types of women tend to be a danger to themselves and others and often commit crimes like murder, or like the various and vicious cases of male genital mutilation perpetrated on men that have abused them or even just on men who’ve cheated on them or whom they believe to been unfaithful. These stories show up in the news quite often it seems.

    As to what constitutes an asshole, the term itself is subjective. It could mean cheater, liar, abuser, or broke, jobless mamas boy who spends more time playing video games than spending time with his girlfriend or wife. For the strong woman who is attracted to a strong man, they may, and often mistakenly do, see, shallowly of course, anyone with money, power, both physical and personality wise, and influence as strong while those traits may inherently make that strong man arrogant, egotistical, selfish, and/or narcasistic. Which, I think the majority of us men and women, can agree are often characteristics of an asshole. While strong women, all too often, see the average good natured guy with an average life, job, and finances who happens to be a bit timid, less confident or even “too nice”(also all subjective terms just like the types of terms this author’s story bases it’s assumptions and concluscions on) as an asshole of the loser variety, in their subjective view of course.

    The term “asshole” is so subjective in its application in this story, as well as in its meaning to today’s woman, and this subject in general, that it’s use as a vital factor in the authors flawed research, makes it problematic at best, and completely invalidating of the research for the story at worst. Neither makes for a factual and thought provoking piece. Instead it reads as a fluff piece designed to speak to a certain demographic of women who need validation in order to feel empowered and somehow not vulnerable to wasting their time on the assholes of the world. Which is complete BS, and proven so time and time again. We hear about, read about it online, see it on the news, or see true stories about it on true crime shows like snapped, forensic files, and the like all the time.

    True strong women, as in the first example tend to be attracted to strength. Or at least what they see or believe to be strength in their potential partners. So the timid, average guy, doesn’t factor in to their choices at this point unless he’s somehow good at pretending to be strong enough to fool a woman into believing he is the type of strong they are looking for and attracted to, but that’s rarely the case. Problem is self identified strong women won’t know if the strength they perceive in their perspective partner is actually strength or just an asshole wearing a strong persona, until that strong woman either gets abused, cheated on, ghosted and/just dumped, or ends up having that person ignore them for the latest video game. By that time, when they’ve invariably fallen pray to any type of “asshole” then they will have already spent too much of their precious time on them. Also the fact that those very same self identified strong women tend to gravitate from one asshole to another disproves the ridiculous notion that strong women would rather be alone. Sure they may say they would rather be alone, but that’s usually just angry girl talk amongst their friends whenever a new asshole in their life burns them, lies, cheats, or just dumps them. Their actions often reflect the fact that they would not rather be alone, and before long they’ve got themselves reeled in like a fish on a hook by yet another asshole fishing for the self identified strong woman to play their game on. Those facts completely invalidate this story and it’s entire premise.

    As to the 2nd type of strong woman, she either dates assholes habitually, and nearly exlusively, because of her often damaged emotional state or mental illness or both. The reasons for that could be daddy issues, a pathological need to be controlled or to do the controlling as in a revenge mind frame trying to pay other men back for the crimes men in her past have perpetrated on her, or just learned behavior based on a dysfunctional childhood. Either way both types of “Strong women” waste significant time on assholes and by the time they actually stop that cycle, usually later in life after they’ve largely ruined their lives, both types are damaged beyond repair.

    So strong women, also a subjective term, not only fall prey to the type of asshole this story references more often than the author wishes to believe or even acknowledge, would rather not be alone than date an asshole, but more often than not they give away their strength to those assholes willingly and almost eagerly at times.

    Sorry to be so blunt in my critique to this article and the aithor wrote it, but you need to dig a lot deeper into this issue, poll a much larger and diverse group of women, and above all don’t go looking for the conclusions that fit your ideological view and instead focus on truth and fact.

    • Debra

      As woman, who has been told I am strong, but really don’t see myself that way. I have to agree with your analysis Tom. This line especially sums up my first thought about this article, ” Instead it reads as a fluff piece designed to speak to a certain demographic of women who need validation in order to feel empowered and somehow not vulnerable to wasting their time on the assholes of the world.”
      Thanks for the well written critique.

      • Jim Mason

        Thank you Debra I appreciate your understanding of my point, although my name is Jim. But my middle name is Thomas, so Tom also works for me. Just be careful agreeing with me on any of the valid points that I have made here. I have had the post you just commented on deleted, and a couple others as well. In addition to those post deletions, a couple of friends of mine had their replies deleted also, for daring to agree with me including an ex girlfriend of mine who dared to repost the post you replied to. She got her post first deleted, then put into moderation limbo. It would seem the author of this article herself, and/or the powers that be at this site do not take opposing views well, much less tolerate anyone speaking out about them with factual information that debunks their points and views. So do not be surprised if my post and by extension your reply get deleted as well. Either way your understanding is appreciated and my gratitude towards you is genuine. Thank you

  • Valar Dohaeris

    Wow … someone shared this with me on Facebook and, I’ll have to say it was not what I was expecting. Then I look down in the comments, and I see a lot of trolling with bad language going on – no moderators here? Anyway, my take on it is this, woman or man, personal strength comes in 50 shades of gray. What is strength for another is easy for someone else. I don’t see strength as being particularly male or female – it’s both. Sure, I’ve suffered at the hands of unscrupulous men, but I’m not a man hater. You really cannot judge people unless you have walked in their shoes – you have no idea what they have been through or experienced. All I know is, if you are not happy with someone, either talk it out – work it out – or walk away. Don’t continue to be unhappy, because unhappiness is not our natural state, and it only leads to more unhappiness. In other words, don’t let anyone, male or female, bring down your personal good vibes. Peace of mind is EVERYTHING and, if someone is trashing your peace of mind, then extract them from your life. If you’re hearing pretty lies that don’t match with actions, put a stop to it. People do not change unless they want to – you cannot change anyone. That is a FACT of life. If you think you’re going to change someone, you’re lying to yourself – you have no control over another person’s thoughts, and consequential actions. So, in my mind, a strong woman is one who does not lie to herself about herself, or about other people. She accepts and rejects those in her life purely upon how they are walking the walk they’re talking, in order to maintain her own sanity and happiness. And believe me, this is a lesson learned in the school of hard knocks. I’ve been through things that would send many women to the loony bin screaming, and I’ve kept it together and still have a caring heart for humanity. ( #MeToo ) Now, I have taken those lemons in life and turned them into lemonade – THAT is strength. There will be many in life who don’t recognize your worth. Just don’t let one of them be YOU. If you don’t love and respect yourself, you can’t expect anyone else to, either. We ALL deserve to be loved and respected, both male and female, and we ALL need to be honest with ourselves about what we need and want. That alone will cut through multitudes of confusion. And if you DECIDE that living alone is what works best for you, then that is what you should do. But please DO NOT ever rule out better possibilities for yourself. I know I won’t. As one of my favorite teachers, MIke Dooley, has said, “Your supply is the universe, and it’s ways are infinite.”.

  • Neoprene55

    The same goes for smart, strong men. They don’t want to spend their time with bitches when one is identified as one.

  • Jim Mason

    Interesting article, and in theory sounds like a very reasonable tactic for a strong woman to take in the dating world. The problem is that the author didn’t really do their homework when it comes to strong women and what they tend to be attracted to and to what they think an “asshole” Is.

    Firstly strong women, or men for that matter as this concept is not gender specific, tend to be attracted to what they think and perceive as strength. Not always though, as this story leaves out the strong types who go for who they perceive as weaker as someone they can control, but for the sake of this story we will stick to the strength attracting strength concept.

    Any woman, since it was women this story is focused on, who identifies as strong falls into 2 categories. 1. Those who have been around the block and hurt a few times but rose above it to make themselves better people, although not always since those experiences are just as likely to make them, bitter, distrustful, unable to open up emotionally, or down right hateful of men in general. Either way that type tends to have plenty of baggage and often are far too picky in their choices of perspective future partners. 2. The perceived, often wrongly so, strong woman who is disconnected from her emotions due to some trauma, mental illness, or both that causes her not to feel love, or empathy in the typical way others do. Those types of women tend to be a danger to themselves and others and often commit crimes like murder, or like the various and vicious cases of male genital mutilation perpetrated on men that have abused them or even just on men who’ve cheated on them or whom they believe to been unfaithful. These stories show up in the news quite often it seems.

    As to what constitutes an asshole, the term itself is subjective. It could mean cheater, liar, abuser, or broke, jobless mamas boy who spends more time playing video games than spending time with his girlfriend or wife. For the strong woman who is attracted to a strong man, they may, and often mistakenly do, see, shallowly of course, anyone with money, power, both physical and personality wise, and influence as strong while those traits may inherently make that strong man arrogant, egotistical, selfish, and/or narcasistic. Which, I think the majority of us men and women, can agree are often characteristics of an asshole. While strong women, all too often, see the average good natured guy with an average life, job, and finances who happens to be a bit timid, less confident or even “too nice”(also all subjective terms just like the types of terms this author’s story bases it’s assumptions and concluscions on) as an asshole of the loser variety, in their subjective view of course.

    The term “asshole” is so subjective in its application in this story, as well as in its meaning to today’s woman, and this subject in general, that it’s use as a vital factor in the authors flawed research, makes it problematic at best, and completely invalidating of the research for the story at worst. Neither makes for a factual and thought provoking piece. Instead it reads as a fluff piece designed to speak to a certain demographic of women who need validation in order to feel empowered and somehow not vulnerable to wasting their time on the assholes of the world. Which is complete BS, and proven so time and time again. We hear about, read about it online, see it on the news, or see true stories about it on true crime shows like snapped, forensic files, and the like all the time.

    True strong women, as in the first example tend to be attracted to strength. Or at least what they see or believe to be strength in their potential partners. So the timid, average guy, doesn’t factor in to their choices at this point unless he’s somehow good at pretending to be strong enough to fool a woman into believing he is the type of strong they are looking for and attracted to, but that’s rarely the case. Problem is self identified strong women won’t know if the strength they perceive in their perspective partner is actually strength or just an asshole wearing a strong persona, until that strong woman either gets abused, cheated on, ghosted and/just dumped, or ends up having that person ignore them for the latest video game. By that time, when they’ve invariably fallen pray to any type of “asshole” then they will have already spent too much of their precious time on them. Also the fact that those very same self identified strong women tend to gravitate from one asshole to another disproves the ridiculous notion that strong women would rather be alone. Sure they may say they would rather be alone, but that’s usually just angry girl talk amongst their friends whenever a new asshole in their life burns them, lies, cheats, or just dumps them. Their actions often reflect the fact that they would not rather be alone, and before long they’ve got themselves reeled in like a fish on a hook by yet another asshole fishing for the self identified strong woman to play their game on. Those facts completely invalidate this story and it’s entire premise.

    As to the 2nd type of strong woman, she either dates assholes habitually, and nearly exlusively, because of her often damaged emotional state or mental illness or both. The reasons for that could be daddy issues, a pathological need to be controlled or to do the controlling as in a revenge mind frame trying to pay other men back for the crimes men in her past have perpetrated on her, or just learned behavior based on a dysfunctional childhood. Either way both types of “Strong women” waste significant time on assholes and by the time they actually stop that cycle, usually later in life after they’ve largely ruined their lives, both types are damaged beyond repair.

    So strong women, also a subjective term, not only fall prey to the type of asshole this story references more often than the author wishes to believe or even acknowledge, would rather not be alone than date an asshole, but more often than not they give away their strength to those assholes willingly and almost eagerly at times.

    Sorry to be so blunt in my critique to this article and the aithor wrote it, but you need to dig a lot deeper into this issue, poll a much larger and diverse group of women, and above all don’t go looking for the conclusions that fit your ideological view and instead focus on truth and fact.

  • Jim Mason

    Since it was my own post that got deleted by the author in her petty fashion becausd did not like that a man so expertly debated the points of her flawed article and took it apart completely and successfully, and in regards to the subsequent posts about it she also deleted for the same reasons,I have chosen to repost it myself.

    Interesting article, and in theory sounds like a very reasonable tactic for a strong woman to take in the dating world. The problem is that the author didn’t really do their homework when it comes to strong women and what they tend to be attracted to and to what they think an “asshole” Is.

    Firstly strong women, or men for that matter as this concept is not gender specific, tend to be attracted to what they think and perceive as strength. Not always though, as this story leaves out the strong types who go for who they perceive as weaker as someone they can control, but for the sake of this story we will stick to the strength attracting strength concept.

    Any woman, since it was women this story is focused on, who identifies as strong falls into 2 categories. 1. Those who have been around the block and hurt a few times but rose above it to make themselves better people, although not always since those experiences are just as likely to make them, bitter, distrustful, unable to open up emotionally, or down right hateful of men in general. Either way that type tends to have plenty of baggage and often are far too picky in their choices of perspective future partners. 2. The perceived, often wrongly so, strong woman who is disconnected from her emotions due to some trauma, mental illness, or both that causes her not to feel love, or empathy in the typical way others do. Those types of women tend to be a danger to themselves and others and often commit crimes like murder, or like the various and vicious cases of male genital mutilation perpetrated on men that have abused them or even just on men who’ve cheated on them or whom they believe to been unfaithful. These stories show up in the news quite often it seems.

    As to what constitutes an asshole, the term itself is subjective. It could mean cheater, liar, abuser, or broke, jobless mamas boy who spends more time playing video games than spending time with his girlfriend or wife. For the strong woman who is attracted to a strong man, they may, and often mistakenly do, see, shallowly of course, anyone with money, power, both physical and personality wise, and influence as strong while those traits may inherently make that strong man arrogant, egotistical, selfish, and/or narcasistic. Which, I think the majority of us men and women, can agree are often characteristics of an asshole. While strong women, all too often, see the average good natured guy with an average life, job, and finances who happens to be a bit timid, less confident or even “too nice”(also all subjective terms just like the types of terms this author’s story bases it’s assumptions and concluscions on) as an asshole of the loser variety, in their subjective view of course.

    The term “asshole” is so subjective in its application in this story, as well as in its meaning to today’s woman, and this subject in general, that it’s use as a vital factor in the authors flawed research, makes it problematic at best, and completely invalidating of the research for the story at worst. Neither makes for a factual and thought provoking piece. Instead it reads as a fluff piece designed to speak to a certain demographic of women who need validation in order to feel empowered and somehow not vulnerable to wasting their time on the assholes of the world. Which is complete BS, and proven so time and time again. We hear about, read about it online, see it on the news, or see true stories about it on true crime shows like snapped, forensic files, and the like all the time.

    True strong women, as in the first example tend to be attracted to strength. Or at least what they see or believe to be strength in their potential partners. So the timid, average guy, doesn’t factor in to their choices at this point unless he’s somehow good at pretending to be strong enough to fool a woman into believing he is the type of strong they are looking for and attracted to, but that’s rarely the case. Problem is self identified strong women won’t know if the strength they perceive in their perspective partner is actually strength or just an asshole wearing a strong persona, until that strong woman either gets abused, cheated on, ghosted and/just dumped, or ends up having that person ignore them for the latest video game. By that time, when they’ve invariably fallen pray to any type of “asshole” then they will have already spent too much of their precious time on them. Also the fact that those very same self identified strong women tend to gravitate from one asshole to another disproves the ridiculous notion that strong women would rather be alone. Sure they may say they would rather be alone, but that’s usually just angry girl talk amongst their friends whenever a new asshole in their life burns them, lies, cheats, or just dumps them. Their actions often reflect the fact that they would not rather be alone, and before long they’ve got themselves reeled in like a fish on a hook by yet another asshole fishing for the self identified strong woman to play their game on. Those facts completely invalidate this story and it’s entire premise.

    As to the 2nd type of strong woman, she either dates assholes habitually, and nearly exlusively, because of her often damaged emotional state or mental illness or both. The reasons for that could be daddy issues, a pathological need to be controlled or to do the controlling as in a revenge mind frame trying to pay other men back for the crimes men in her past have perpetrated on her, or just learned behavior based on a dysfunctional childhood. Either way both types of “Strong women” waste significant time on assholes and by the time they actually stop that cycle, usually later in life after they’ve largely ruined their lives, both types are damaged beyond repair.

    So strong women, also a subjective term, not only fall prey to the type of asshole this story references more often than the author wishes to believe or even acknowledge, would rather not be alone than date an asshole, but more often than not they give away their strength to those assholes willingly and almost eagerly at times.

    Sorry to be so blunt in my critique to this article and the aithor wrote it, but you need to dig a lot deeper into this issue, poll a much larger and diverse group of women, and above all don’t go looking for the conclusions that fit your ideological view and instead focus on truth and fact.

  • Dominic Blais

    what a load of crap strong women have strong feminine qualities and do not act like men

    • MissNomer

      You don’t think it’s a strong feminine quality to avoid assholes?

  • Kim Burkert McGrantham

    I’m almost 50 now.. been single for about 6 yrs… everyone keeps asking me when I’m gonna get a boyfriend..why? I’m perfectly happy and content. I was married 18 year’s. Still have my adult kids here.. I have no need or desire to have a guy in my life. I actually like being single lol

    • Tomasz Szewczyk

      This is different I would say. Even if failed (or not I dont really know how you look at it) you have the fulfillment of knowing you achieved the pinnacle of this whole relationship BS… You have children, no one can blame you (Especially a Genocide hating Realists (My extensive knowledge on the depths of human depravity makes me realize of what we are cepeable of)) for being happy with yourself. I wish you all the best and your children to.

  • Tomasz Szewczyk

    This thread is great and should be saved for posterity, A man makes a reasonable statement, a feminist appears calls him names and states hes frustrated lair and he cant get laid. Man tries to argue hears he is trash liar and cant get laid, gets pissed off about personal attacks Feminazi shreeks rape and turns into a poor victim.. More crazy sistaz arrive tell the man he cant get laid and he probably kills baby seals… Very constructive Very constructive ladies, no wonder EVERY SINGLE WOMEN ONLY COMPANY FAILED!!! (Not talking about some “excuses for mass murdering of unborn children campaign” charity ITS NOT REAL BUSINESS)

  • Tomasz Szewczyk

    Seriously just type into google women only company (not even the failed part) It funny as shit and I might open some feminazisuppremacist eyes… I doubt, you cant whipup a whip from excrement and shit.

  • freedomisthejungle

    if these “smart women” aren’t revolutionaries, they’re not smart.

  • Nick

    She was doing ok till she started using the word asshole to describe men, but her basic premise is true, both men and women stay in unhealthy relationships out of fear of being alone.

    • MissNomer

      What word would you prefer, broflake?

  • Claire Weightman

    There is no gender bar on assholedom..being always selfish bottom lines, before empathic, is both a learned and inherent trait..Its passed on in families and institutions as, right. It cuts across all gender, age, cultural and featured lines. The young chick that cut in front in the queue..asshole. The threatened, spoiled, victim-acting mother of four who gloatingly ‘got away with’ vilifying the half transitioned transman in the ‘glam’ misogynistic gay male workplace? Asshole. The child who stole the other kids toy, then pretended it was the other way? Likely on way to asshole.

    The 89 yo always right smartarse, who now ridicules and orders ‘foreign’ nursing staff around in the absence of her former, emo-punching bag, loving, hardworking, rejected husband! Still an asshole. The guy in the stupid boiler suit with high vis vest and shiney bits, the one who fined the impoverished guy with no ticket at the station, didn’t just give him a warning? One utter asshole.

    The billionaire, who needs ever more companies and status, to feel like his virility is still functioning, paying sweatshop, or admin-exploited staff 1/100,000,00th of his own salary. Need I articulate it. Big, big asshole.

    Let’s see. The ten year old girl kid who started a business and charges her parents extra for products? Yep, good makings of a future asshole. The pan-kink fascinated young rich girl or guy or anyone.. who uses social status and power to impose sexual interests, deprive women or gay men, or anyone really of work, or food, or freedom. Unconscionable asshole.
    Rich Korean guy who inherits a leading gig and pays for rockets with the proceeds of making his workers food production supply defunct. Uber asshole.

    Those people who think it ‘sport’ to troll and attack other people on social media sites, for shits and giggles, to assuage their own utterly bored, unliked, numb empty feelings and envious incapacity to ‘compete’? Certain assholes.

    Round them all up with your palominos folks, drive them into the sea ports most threatened with global warming. Let them take all their scared paranoias, their self-protective bombs, hyper-breeding and objectifying, body armour (and hi vis vests..they should have no place in fashion wardrobes!!). Throw in their rapid fire guns and nukes. Then hammer up a big, strongly built, completely encircling bullet and nuke proof dome. Let nature and their own natures, take care of the rest.

    Goodbye, forever, to assholedom!?

  • Phreon

    What makes you think this is in any way exclusive to women?

    • MissNomer

      What makes you think it’s necessary to point that out?

      • Rob

        I can think of 2 reasons why it is necessary for Phreon to point that out. 1. Your comment being the most obvious reason. Why should him pointing that fact out make you question his need to? It’s clear that the article and the sentiment it presents is one sided. Assholes exist in vast numbers among men and women, and both genders tend to respond to the prospect of dating one the same way. That being avoidance of assholes or choosing to be alone rather than date one, as the article suggests. So because of the article’s one sided portrayal, his comment is necessary and important for a balanced debate on this subject to be had so as to keep the concept of the asshole and their behavior being the focus, not the gender of the person being the asshole. That is, of course, if true balanced debate and discussion of this subject is what you want, and not just an opportunity to push a male bashing agenda.

        The 2nd reason is simple. The fact that the imbalance of these such discussions, where either a woman characterizes all men as being capable of and/or exhibiting one behavior or behaviors, while ignoring the fact that women can and often are just as guilty of the same or similar behaviors, does the concept of true equality between men and women a disservice, and a serious one at that. True equality amongst the genders doesn’t just mean calling out bad behavior past or present from them and bashing them for it. It means first correcting such behavior, and second also admitting that those of the gender doing the calling out/bashing of such behavior are just as capable and guilty of that condemned behavior. Neither gender is any better, morally, or ethically, or in any other possible way than the other. No matter what the propaganda from one sided fluff pieces, like this article, talking heads and so called reporters from the myriad of independent internet new sites or mainstream media sources, or any other controversy stirring source might try and say to the contrary. There’s your 2 reasons.

      • Rob

        The answer to your question is simple. He felt the need to point it out because, first women like you do not like it when a man points out the very real, provable fact, that this issue is not exclusive to women, and second because articles like the OP are written often times with the purpose to perpetuate the animosity and division of men and women making equality a much tougher goal to achieve.. That point he was making with his post that you didn’t like was that women are just as capable of being an asshole as a man and very often are. You do not like that point because you refuse to believe it is true. This issue is not exclusive to either gender. Now I don’t need to ask why you asked your question. It’s fairly clear that you feel devalued, both as a women and your experiences as one, if a man dares to state that women and men are both capable of the same kind of asshole, or worse, type of behaviors.

        As I said, the reason for that is you clearly do not believe it, or more importantly do not want to believe it because it does not fit with the narrative of you being oppressed as a woman that you have been fed for so long that it has become a vital part of your beliefs and identity as a woman. This article was just another standard issue fluff piece, pandering to and focusing on, the specific demographic of women upset over the unfortunate amount of times they have had to deal with and/or spend any time with asshole boyfriends, husbands, dates, coworkers, or acquaintances. The problem is that often women and men alike have to end up dealing with assholes of either gender because we either attract them to us by our own behavior or are attracted to them because of some other quality they have that we find attractive. So the solution simple, change your behavior to stop attracting them, and stop focusing on whatever quality they might have that attracts you to them and you will find less and less of them in your life.

        • MissNomer
          • Jim Mason

            Too bad those men’s issues got brought up whether you liked it or not. Get over it. Women perpetrate the same asshole behavior as evidenced by your post. It’s true, so you’ll have to get over that too. If you think it was meant to derail the discussion than you weren’t interested in the discussion to begin with, only the man blaming.

          • Heather Hunter

            You have this totally backwards. When my fellow women, who say theyr’e feminists when they are not say things like that, its because its they, not men are the ones who want everything about them. The point is NOT the gender, but the behavior that is it issue. Toxic behavior is committed by both men and women. To say any less or want to confine the discussion to just one gender’s suffering because of that behavior isn’t wanting to talk about the issue at all. You like a lot of feminists who have adopted this exclusionary tactic in regards to men and their valid issues they bring to this discussion are the problem here. Feminism is about equality, and for equality to happen both sides have to tell their stories, and both sides have to admit to and accept their negative behaviors towards the other. You want this to be all about women so whenever a man brings his pain or story into the discussion upset, because a true discussion is never what you want. What you want is a round table of you and exclusively some other bitter and unfortunate members of my gender who can sit around and hate men and validate each other’s hate. If you can acknowledge everything the woman you quoted stated in her first paragraph than you should not feel devalued or even offended when men bring up their horror stories about women doing the same things to them. In fact those are exactly the type of men you should want to chime in, because they know what its like to be abused and understand its impact, and they can help assure you that not all men are like the ones who have hurt you. But nope, your hate of men won;t allow for that so it is easier for you to condemn and criticize them for it and blame their motives on misogyny. Drop the labels sister, and the attitude and learn to listen instead of talk, you might learn something instead of embarrassing those of us who actually are fighting for equality.

          • Heather Hunter

            You got it completely backwards. Its not about men bringing up their stories to override a discussion and make it all about them. Its about some of the newer versions of feminists who want the discussion to be all about the women. Some of my fellow gender and feminist sisters cannot see passed their own hate of men due to their own personal experience that they see any man with a similar story about being victimized as a woman and some kind of attempt to horn in and ruin their discussion. Some men do that, but not all of them. The ones with real stories are exactly the kind of men you want to be involved in discussion like these, because they have been abused, and know exactly what it i’s like and what the impact of that is. If you and the women whose post you stole and posted here can both say and agree to the first paragraph than you already know that this issue is not about gender, its about toxic behavior and toxic mentality. Both men and women exhibit this. I cannot count how many times I have seen just as much toxic femininity from some of my sisters who call themselves feminists. Categorizing all men as potential rapists, and the whole bathing in male tears log, Jim mentioned before. I see and hear that all the time at every feminist gathering I go to. Its only the older feminists, the ones who fought and still do, for true equality that understand how undermining those hate mongering tactics of categorizing all men negatively cause. That is what derails or overrides the discussion, not a man who has the courage to bring up his own story of abuse or even point out that both men and women are guilty of the kind of behaviors we are talking about. Everyone, including you, need to stop yelling at each other and blaming each other and start listening to each other. Both sides points are valid in this discussion and any started by men.

          • Rob

            Thank you heather, that was exactly why I posted what I did. Not to derail or override the discussion, but to explain how it happens to anyone regardless of gender, and to highlight one gender’s struggle without also doing the same for the other only serves one gender’s agenda and does nothing to address the behavior, which is the real problem both genders engage in, and find a solution.

          • Heather Hunter

            You’re welcome Rob. I got your point. Miss nomer is just one of a growing number of women these days calling themselves feminists, and I have said this before, that have no interest in real gender equality. Equality and equal opportunity is what feminism was started about. Women wanted the same rights as men. The problem now is that the more toxic variety of feminists think they are entitled to act just like and exhibit the same toxic behavior as the toxic men who oppressed women in the past, as well some continue to do women now. However those “feminists in name only types” who engage in that behavior are worse than the men who oppressed them or other women. The men who oppressed them or other women weren’t taught any better, but the women who were oppressed do know better because they were victims of it. So when those women categorize all men as this or that derogatory term, or when they chastise or attack a man for stating obvious truths and facts like, that women can be just as oppressive and toxic as men can be, they are acting worse than the toxic men who hurt them because they know better. Toxic masculinity was taught and carried down through the generations, this new toxic femininity was not. This toxic femininity is just some of the more embittered and angrier members of my gender’s irrational need to get pay back. Pure and simple.

            The abused becomes the abuser and the cycle continues. Even now the backlash to a lot of this toxic femininity behavior perpetrated by some in the various feminist groups is causing a new form of segregation to begin in society which is not entirely unlike the kind African Americans suffered through for so long. Because of the abusiveness of those types of feminists, not all but the toxic variety, men all over have decided to start shutting women out of their lives both professional and personal. Now I am not just talking about MGTOW, I am talking about an article recently written describing how less male CEOs and male managers are willing to mentor women, or even deal with us on a 1 on 1 basis for fear of having some allegation of misconduct leveled against them. Be it sexual or otherwise. The accusation does not even have to be true either for it to have a destructive and permanent effect on the accused. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating that it is because of behaviors and mentalities exhibited in articles with replies such as the ones here where the deluge of negative comments and sentiments, and sometimes insults to the male gender in general is the exact kind of toxic mentality driving this new segregation.

            Eventually it will get to the point that the glass ceiling my gender tried so hard to break through for so long, will get replaced by one made of titanium that will never get broken through and it will be our daughters, like my own, who will suffer for it. That suffering will not be caused by men, the patriarchy, or by toxic masculinity, it will be caused by the toxic nature of what passes for feminism now dramatically widening the division already present between the genders. This will grow to such an extent that there will be little if any compromising and working together between men and women. We already see it where some men in power on wall street will not deal with female employees at all without either another independent observer present, often female, or through a female subordinate so as to insulate themselves from the potential effects of that toxic femininity I have described.

          • Heather Hunter

            You’re welcome Rob. I got your point. Miss nomer is just one
            of a growing number of women these days calling themselves feminists, and I
            have said this before, that have no interest in real gender equality. Equality and equal opportunity is what feminism was started about. Women wanted
            the same rights as men. The problem now is that the more toxic variety of feminists think they are entitled to act just like and exhibit the same toxic behavior as the toxic men who oppressed women in the past, as well some continue to do women now. However those “feminists in name only types” who engage in that behavior are worse than the men who oppressed them or other women. The men who
            oppressed them or other women weren’t taught any better, but the women who were
            oppressed do know better because they were victims of it. So when those women categorize all men as this or that derogatory term, or when they chastise or attack a man for stating obvious truths and facts like, that women can be just as oppressive and toxic as men can be, they are acting worse than the toxic men who hurt them because they know better. Toxic masculinity was taught and carried down through the generations, this new toxic femininity was not. This toxic femininity is just some of the more embittered and angrier members of my gender’s irrational need to get pay back. Pure and simple.

            The abused becomes the abuser and the cycle continues. Even now the backlash to a lot of this toxic femininity behavior perpetrated by some in the various feminist groups is causing a new form of segregation to begin in society which is not entirely
            unlike the kind African Americans suffered through for so long. Because of the abusiveness of those types of feminists, not all but the toxic variety, men all over have decided to start shutting women out of their lives both professional and personal. Now I am not just talking about MGTOW, I am talking about an article recently written describing how less male CEOs and male managers are willing to mentor women, or even deal with us on a 1 on 1 basis for fear of having some allegation of misconduct leveled against them. Be it sexual or otherwise. The
            accusation does not even have to be true either for it to have a destructive
            and permanent effect on the accused. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating that it is because of behaviors and mentalities exhibited in articles with replies such as the ones here where the deluge of negative comments and sentiments, and sometimes insults to the male gender in general is the exact kind of toxic mentality
            driving this new segregation.

            Eventually it will get to the point that the glass ceiling my gender tried so hard to break through for so long, will get replaced by one made of titanium that will never get broken through and it will be our daughters, like my own, who will suffer for it. That suffering will not be caused by men, the patriarchy, or by toxic masculinity, it will be caused by the toxic nature of what passes for feminismnow dramatically widening the division already present between the genders. This will grow to such an extent that there will be little if any compromising and working together between men
            and women. We already see it where some men in power on wall street will not deal with female employees at all without either another independent observer present, often female, or through a female subordinate so as to insulate themselves from the potential effects of thattoxic femininity I have described.

          • Heather Hunter

            You’re welcome Rob. I got your point. Miss nomer is just one of a growing number of women these days calling themselves feminists, and I have said this before, that have no interest in real gender equality. Equality and equal opportunity is what feminism was started about. Women wanted the same rights as men. The problem now is that the more toxic variety of feminists think they are entitled to act just like, and exhibit the same toxic behaviors, as the toxic men who oppressed women in the past, as well some who continue to do so now. However those “feminists in name only types” who engage in that behavior are worse than the men who oppressed them or other women. The men who oppressed them or other women weren’t taught any better, but the women who were oppressed do know better because they were victims of it. So when those women categorize all men as this or that derogatory term, or when they chastise or attack a man for stating obvious truths and facts like, that women can be just as oppressive and toxic as men can be, they are acting worse than the toxic men who hurt them because they know better. Toxic masculinity was taught and carried down through the generations, this new toxic femininity was not. This toxic femininity is just some of the more embittered and angrier members of my gender’s irrational need to get pay back. Pure and simple.

            The abused becomes the abuser and the cycle continues. Even now the backlash to a lot of this toxic femininity behavior perpetrated by some in the various feminist groups is causing a new form of segregation to begin in society which is not entirely unlike the kind African Americans suffered through for so long. Because of the abusiveness of those types of feminists, not all but the toxic variety, men all over have decided to start shutting women out of their lives both professional and personal. Now I am not just talking about MGTOW, I am talking about an article recently written describing how less male CEOs and male managers are willing to mentor women, or even deal with us on a 1 on 1 basis for fear of having some allegation of misconduct leveled against them. Be it sexual or otherwise. The accusation does not even have to be true either for it to have a destructive and permanent effect on the accused. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating that it is because of behaviors and mentalities exhibited in articles with replies such as the ones here where the deluge of negative comments and sentiments, and sometimes insults to the male gender in general is the exact kind of toxic mentality driving this new segregation.

            Eventually it will get to the point that the glass ceiling my gender tried so hard to break through for so long, will get replaced by one made of titanium that will never get broken through and it will be our daughters, like my own, who will suffer for it. That suffering will not be caused by men, the patriarchy, or by toxic masculinity, it will be caused by the toxic nature of what passes for feminism now dramatically widening the division already present between the genders. This will grow to such an extent that there will be little if any compromising and working together between men and women. We already see it where some men in power on wall street will not deal with female employees at all without either another independent observer present, often female, or through a female subordinate so as to insulate themselves from the potential effects of that toxic femininity I have described.

          • Vicki Mangum

            True. Well said.

          • Jim Mason

            Yes very well said Heather, as usual you remain a voice of reason among feminists like the honey badgers are. MissNomer’s problem is that she has been messed over by too many men and its naturally made her bitter. She has tunnel vision and is incapable of seeing anyone’s struggles and problems but her own, especially where toxic behavior being exhibited by both genders, as you said, is concerned. So she see any comment that does not validate her beliefs and experiences as derailing, or devaluing to her personally. She simply can’t see past her own hate.

          • vanillarhapsodic

            Says another dude

          • p38l5

            Says a Hillary Troll.

          • Jim Mason

            Looks like a couple of your posts got deleted. You must have posted one too many truths for the man hating crowd to handle. It’s proof positive of what you say about toxic feminity. We’re seeing it here not just from some female commentors but from those moderating the site. The people who write these articles always say they want to have a discussion on this topic, but only if it marches in lockstep with their approved narrative. Toxic femininity and typical behavior from the type of feminist you so accurately described Heather

          • vanillarhapsodic

            WTF is wrong with women talking amongst themselves??

          • Ashley Henney

            Nothing as long as you can keep your bug nose out of it

          • p38l5

            Then GET OFF THE WEB! It’s PUBLIC!

          • Mike Sieple

            There is it is Exhibit “A” folks, the typical and toxic 3rd wave feminist mentality. In their minds there are somehow no other struggles than their own, anyone who dares disagree gets attacked or in topics like this gets their posts deleted.

          • MissNomer
          • vanillarhapsodic

            No…but we DO have our OWN burdens to bear. Do you also tell the handicapped that if they discuss parking or elevators…they think no one else have struggles too?

            No you just think if anyone DOES speak about them without including you….that somehow that insults YOUR fragile ego

          • Ashley Henney

            What are you talking about???? No one mentioned handicapped people or any disability. Are you hallucinating here or just delusional? Also what burdens have you faced other than the ones you’ve created for yourself with your reckless mouth? The only ego getting bruised here that I see is yours. Please don’t insult feminists by pretending to be one.

          • Paul Eduard

            Precisely … and of course below they will make up ever longer paragraphs to defend their logical fallacies. Good article .. it took a bit of time to admit to myself I was being an ass-hole in someone’s life. She made the decision to say good bye in December and I respect that. These situations are especially difficult for young women, (but definitely not exclusive to them.) People should look up the testimony of the great Kate Griggs on her Marine Corps husband George Griggs. She out’s a whole culture of assholeness at an institutional level. — It is a must for someone who wants to learn, understand and possibly identify the source.

          • vanillarhapsodic

            I had an asshole Former Marine husband too

          • Ashley Henney

            Judging by your posts here I would believe you were the only asshole in your marriage. Insulting a marine is a new low for you though. I would like to see you insult a marine irl to their face. I bet you would get yours punched in for it.

          • niki

            it’s brought up to make a point , and you’re right you clearly are not listening, it went right over your head

          • p38l5

            This is THE WEB! It is open discussion! Want it private? Rent a Room or quit complaining!

        • Donalyn Kestner

          Well said.

        • niki

          whoa, whoa…you have different age perspectives here, yours is clearly one of them,
          take a breath…and be happy that you have found a man

          • vanillarhapsodic

            WT ever loving fuck? Do you even read what you just wrote?

            “and just be happy that you have found a man”???

            OMG….That is the EXACT problem in a nutshell. You define yourself only by your ability to have a man “in your life”….as if a woman with no man in hers is a failure. It doesn’t matter if he is an asshole and treats you like shit…..”at least you are better than some woman without a man”

            You just became an excellent example…of why this article needed to be written

            Oh and for the boys in this thread “demanding equal time”

            Since when is YOUR ONLY VALUE described by your ability to have a woman…any woman now matter HOW she treats you…in your life. When do you get told out loud and in public by your peers..”and just be happy you found a woman” because that means…no matter what else you bring to the world….its the ONLY thing that matters….”you are better than some guy who doesn’t”

            THAT is the measure WE (not you) are held to!

          • Ashley Henney

            This post of yours right here is why you are worthless to the cause of feminists everywhere vanilla. You have no idea what niki was talking about or to whom she was talking to and you attack her. You are definitely the real problem here. Time for you to put the bottle down and stop drunk posting here

        • Lyn Peel

          I agreed with the first paragraph but the second was a little more difficult to agree with. You don’t know that the narrative doesn’t fit with MissNomer being oppressed as a woman for a long period of time nor that she holds that as a vital part of her beliefs and identity. That’s an extrapolation too far. Additionally women have not been equal to men in the workplace or in other areas for a very long period of time. There is genuine inequality which remains … unfortunately. Otherwise I agree “like to tends to attract like” … for whatever reason.

          • Heather Hunter

            Actually Rob is completely correct here, even the points you couldn’t agree with. Reading missnomer’s posts here it’s very clear that her identity does center around her belief that she has been oppressed like a lot of the latest incarnation of feminist in name only types. I see her same attitude in a lot of my gender these days especially in the feminist groups I belong to.

            Those types have hijacked the movement and push their own narrative which has nothing to do with equality. Their narrative pushes a total reversal whereby women would be allowed to oppress and engage in behavior once committed by misogynistic men. The characteristics of that are evident in the tactics they use and the mentalities behind them. Often they are laced with misandric elements if not blatantly misandrist. Some even outright adopt the misandrist label proudly. Missnomer did not go that far but, judging from her posts, she seems to lean in that direction. The more confrontational of her posts here reflect that. I agree that there is genuine inequality that remains, however attitudes like hers are part of the reasons why some of that inequality remains. The older more experienced of my feminist sisters get that truth, the newer variety and those who follow that mindset, like her, do not.

          • Jim Mason

            Amen Heather. Very well said

          • Rob

            I second Jim’s amen Heather. I’m glad you brought up the reversal scenario they push these days. I couldn’t agree more. I once read a comment from a self proclaimed feminist who also called herself a misandrist. In her comment she tried stating, according to her belief, that women should be given a pass to oppress men. Her bizarre justification for that was her equally bizarre belief that such action should be excused because of the historical oppression of women. The big problem with that ridiculous notion, aside from the obvious mental illness such an idea would be a symptom of, is that it’s the age old story of the abused becoming the abused and 2 wrongs not equalling a right.

            Sadly though, that idea is very prevalent in the more fringe feminist ideology these days. I’m glad that you, as a woman and a feminist Heather, both see and acknowledge it’s prevalence as well as understand how counterproductive and damaging such a tactic is to overall equality.

          • Heather Hunter

            I do see and understand how prevalent that all is Rob. I also know the woman whose comment you are referencing. I read it too, and her statement is not rare, nor is the attitude behind it. The whole misogyny justifying misandry debate is, in my opinion, no better than the misogyny that drove the oppression of women in the first place. No matter how you label it though, it’s still abuse and there is NO justification for abuse of anyone regardless of their gender, or the whatever atrocities that person’s gender might have been guilty of in the past. At some point someone has to break that chain, otherwise, the abused will become the abuser and on it will go until someone has the courage and compassion to break that chain. It makes me sick to see some of my fellow feminists engaging in such behavior or championing it. Equality will not be achieved by women becoming as abusive as men once were.

          • vanillarhapsodic

            Please point me to where men are being oppressed in this aricle? By saying some are assholes and dont waste your precious time on them??

          • Jim Mason

            LMAO Rob and Heather have a stalker now. Outstanding and hysterical. I love it. Wonder how many more times she’ll post

          • Heather Hunter

            You can have her if you want her Jim. She’s already proved my points. Her hate of men is more obvious than Missnomer’s. The more venom she spits out in her replies the more she embodies the exact type of misandric feminist I described. She’ll continue to reply or she’ll get bored and she’ll spread her hate somewhere else.

          • Ashley Henney

            You are trying to, not very successfully, oppress men here with your attacks as well as your failed attempts to control the debate going on here. I may not agree with everything the men have said here, but some of them had some valid points. There has been no validity to anything you’ve posted here. In fact the more you posted the more you validated the points made here by the more misogynistic men who replied to this article.

          • vanillarhapsodic

            Who the fuck is talking about oppressing anyone in this article?

            You people have gone insane

          • Ashley Henney

            No vanilla they haven’t, but you have. Sober up and leave the feminist activism to those of us real feminists. We don’t need, or want your help

          • vanillarhapsodic

            WTF are you talking about….how is she talking about “oppressing” anyone else by simply saying women should love themselves first. Your nonsense is WHY we cannot gain ground. YOU enjoy your status as Second Class citizen…you still want Prince Charming to take care of you…

          • Ashley Henney

            No vanilla it is YOUR nonsense that is the reason we can’t gain ground. Heather is not only right, but she is someone you should listen to because you could learn a lot from her. She’s a lot nicer and more forgiving than I am. She won’t callout your bullshit like I am. You are the second class citizen, and believe me feminism does not need a voice as nonsensical as yours. You stoke the fires of animosity between us and men and you give misogynists everywhere validation by acting like the harpy theyvaccuse us all of being. Yes it is you and women like you more than anyone or anything else that has held us all back.

          • vanillarhapsodic

            Not been equal….EVER

        • vanillarhapsodic

          You ARE the problem….you are the needy “assholes” this article is about…your fragile ego can’t allow women to talk amongst themselves about being strong and loving themselves….without some privileged White Dude inserting himself into thier shoes AS IF he could possibly relate. Go have a good cry, incel

          • Heather Hunter

            Here is exactly the misandrist mentality I was talking about, and you prove Rob’s point by acting in the same manor as the @ashole’s this article references. Your reply illustrates how “the @sshole issue” is not gender specific and that my fellow women can act like one just as much as any man can.

          • Rob

            I think she proves your point more than mine Heather, but I find it as ironic as it is funny that in her haste to lash out at me that she exhibits the very same hate you were talking about. As to her being our stalker, you and Jim can fight over who gets her LOL.

          • Ashley Henney

            Totally agree Heather. Vanilla is exactly the type you were posting about. If we are ever to gain true equality it will only be after the nonsensical and ignorant voices like hers finally stop. The most irritating thing is that vanilla actuall thinks and believes she’s speaking for feminism and the betterment of women everywhere, but what she’s actually doing is helping the patriarchy with her misandric attacks.

          • Ashley Henney

            Hey vanilla, were you born stupid or were you drunk when you posted here? YOU are the problem. Ignorant women like you whose egos are too fragile to debate with a man without resorting to the behavior they so quickly point out as being the norm from us women or real feminists like heather and me. Whenever someone like you opens your fat ignorant mouth you make it that much harder for the rest of us to fight for real equality. Nowadays it’s people like you, not the patriarchy who are the biggest obstacle to gender equality. So please don’t try to “help” the feminist movement anymore. I personally would rather debate with Rob, sower, or Jim all day then have someone like you trying to stand up for my gender. Give it a rest because your words aren’t helping us, instead they are helping to perpetuate the oppression.

          • Rob

            Beautifully put Ashley.

        • Vicki Mangum

          Well said. This is where I’m at right now.

        • Jo

          well said. After I finally realized that something that I was doing was attracting the wrong type people, I am the common denominator, I began to evaluate every single relationship that I had. That was eye-opening. And then when someone new came into my life, and I knew I wasn’t fully healthy yet, I then evaluated: What is wrong with YOU if you want to be with ME? Because right now, I am damaged goods and you act like I am just the greatest thing. So something is wrong with you, if you are wanting me right now. So my world got very small, for quite some time. Then slowly, as I got healthier and made healthier choices in life, the folks with substance and integrity began showing up in my life. One person of integrity can replace 6 “friends” that you cull from your inner circle when you realize how toxic they really are, or how they bring out the worst in you and that is not what you want in your life. All this takes so much time, it’s a process that cannot be rushed, and it is a commitment to yourself and to your future healthy self.

          • Rob

            Well said, and very well done Jo(I’m assuming you are a woman since your reply seems to suggest that). I admire your strength. It takes a lot of inner strength to take such an introspective look at ones own life and choices like you did and then take full responsibility for your choices and the consequences of them. Then it takes even more strength to make those tough choices to change your life like you did. You are a truly strong person. Not only for the personal journey you’ve described, but because you chose not to follow the popular misandric narrative, as Heather and Ashley described it, and blame men solely for the bad relationships you’ve had. Instead you proved you have real strength and you chose to change your life and choices to stop attracting and being attracted to people who aren’t healthy for you. Yes very well done indeed. A lot of people, both women and men, could learn a lot from you.

          • Jo

            Thank you Rob. You may be the only person that really read what I wrote, and really got what I said. I pretty much bared my soul in that one paragraph, and you are so reassuring that I am on the right path. I truly thank you for that Rob. You could be one of those people with Integrity and substance that show up for someone, and replace the other 6 that were culled.

          • Rob

            You’re very welcome Hi, and thank you for your kind words

          • Rob

            You’re very welcome Jo, and thank you for your kind words. You truly stand out in this comment section as the truest example of integrity and strength. May your life be filled with all the hope, positivity, and happiness possible. You have absolutely earned it.

      • Jim Mason

        What makes you think it’s necessary to ask him why he pointed out that it’s not exclusive to women? If you do not identify as the female form of the @sshole discussed in the article, then he was not referring to you and it shouldn’t both you enough to ask your question. However if you have a guilty conscious cause you, or other women you know, actually have been guilty of being that type of @sshole then all I can say is this “if the shoe fits, wear it”

        • vanillarhapsodic

          You are NOT held to a standard that you are only valuable if you have a woman in your life….THAT is the difference and THAT is what this article is getting at

          • Ashley Henney

            You have no idea what standards he or any man are held to in their lives just like they don’t know what standards we are held to. So please stop lecturing on a subject you have no understanding of. The REAL difference here is that he knows what he is talking about while you don’t. He actually makes a good point, and you valid his point by your reply.

      • SowerOfAsh

        Every time I see an article about the problems men face in relationships the first comment by women is always “But women face that too!” so deal with it.

        • MissNomer

          Oh really? EVERY time? Please link to an article – just one – about the problems men face in relationships, in which the very first comment is from a woman saying “But women face that too!” Because bullshit.

          • SowerOfAsh

            I don’t bother cataloging articles about men’s problems because, unlike you, I’m not a petty cunt. So eat a dick, bitch.

          • MissNomer

            Right, just as I suspected, you lied.

            Sorry about your tiny penis, loser.

          • vanillarhapsodic

            Just like any good RWinger….you cannot prove the shit you say….we are expected to just accept it as fact bevause YOU said so….its the very reason y’all fall for so much Conspiracy Theory…you “just believe” without any credible evidence…simply because you like how it sounds

        • vanillarhapsodic

          No…you dont

    • vanillarhapsodic

      What makes you feel left out if women are having a conversation?

      • p38l5

        You are on the WEB! It is open to everyone! Want a private conversation? Rent a Room!

  • Morwenna Yaoing

    Part of me wants to like this article, but I don’t. The headline and content are the kind of quasi-inspirational clickbait churnalism we see so much of these days, with a ‘swear’ thrown in for the rebels, and this kind of thinking actually sickens me a bit because for one – people aren’t divided into binary camps, such as ‘strong’ and weak’ – or, for that matter, ‘assholes’ and ‘non-assholes’ – this implies by default that women who stay in relationships with ‘assholes’ ‘after an asshole has been identified as one’ are weak, and that
    ‘assholes’ never have any redeeming features that might make women question simply cutting them out of their lives immediately – and that there isn’t any middle ground. It also discounts all the myriads of reasons why a strong woman might not leave a relationship; why her strength might be a key factor that causes her to stay in that relationship; that her strength cause her to be more susceptible to gaslighting by an equally strong or weak but manipulative partner; that that strength might lead her to put her own happiness second for what she sees as the good of the tribe – her children, her family, her partner. Her very strength and her understanding of the cognitive dissonance that comes with not instantly walking away from an asshole might be undermined, gradually, but this kind of article is a thoughtless platitude for a particular, societal set of women, ironically, those who probably don’t need articles to suggest to them how ‘strong’ they are. It tries to recoup a bit by adding a bit of blurb to ‘encourage’ women to walk away from assholes, but the overlying message kind of makes that part a bit too little, too late.

    This article might lend some comfort and a bit of a chuckle for single women or those who have recently left a relationship with an asshole, but it ignores those countless strong women and men who are currently surrounded by assholes; who might be attracted to an asshole, or hope to help them; who care for and nurture and try to educate the assholes, or who were simply unaware of their partner or friend’s assholery before they had invested into a relationship with them, and victim-blames them by omission.

    Not sure I’ve explained myself very well. But the headline made me spit and then I read the content, which made me spit more.

  • Brian Robison

    I’m glad I don’t write articles. It’s so hard not to offend someone, especially when writing about one sex, or the other. I have friends who are of both genders, and some of them prefer same gender relationships (when they are in one), and some of them prefer to be in a relationship with the opposite gender (when they are in one). No matter what, 99 percent of my friends (when the relationship ends) call the ex an “asshole” (or worse). We are all human, and none of us are perfect. It takes a whole lot to crack a person’s mind open, and inspire them to embark on a journey of spiritual growth. The ones who point their finger, have three pointing back at themselves. The world is so full of people who just want to blame someone else. This is even all our politicians do now. It used to be that, when one ran for office, they would try to build a campaign on how they are qualified for the job, and what they would do for the country. Now it’s just a blame game, and making the opponent look worse than you. The common man and/or woman are guilty of the same. We are supposed to work together, build each other up, give words of support, encourage goodness. Instead, all we do anymore, is tear each other down, or get with like minded people, and tear down unlike minded people. We’ve all given up on self respect, courage, and dignity. I’m so sick of seeing, reading, and hearing it all. Our nation will not survive this sexism, racism, or any other type of prejudice. Read up on the fall of Rome. We are repeating history, because we’ve failed to learn from it.

    • Rob

      Very well written Brian. Kudos to not only understanding the whole point that blame helps no one, but that men and women are guilty of perpetrating the same behaviors the end up being the focus of that blame game. You are particularly right about humanity not learning from history and being doomed to repeat it. Long aft metoo is gone, 3rd wave feminism has become 4rth or 5th wave, the general public will still be divided, especially amongst the genders. Respect courage and dignity seem to be outdated concepts and rapidly disappearing from the day to day interaction of people with each other, regardless of gender. It only ends when the blaming ends and we work together, or until the hate gets so bad we self destruct completely leaving this world barren or devoid of human life like it was millions of years ago. Sad, alarmist, and a bit dramatic, but still true. Again well said Brian

  • Raymond Robbins

    Spend time with asshole’s, allot won’t date a nice guy either that’s why so many nice guys are stuck in the friend zone.

  • Jack Spencer

    What a sad commentary on modern life. We’ve all become so cynical. 🙁

  • DMBMother

    The left side of my brain has known this for a long time. The right side, however, is still thrashing around and trying to drown out reason. I never minded time alone before. I always loved it. But now it’s lonely. I want myself back.

  • MissNomer

    Some of these comments are hilarious. All these broflakes who bitch and moan CONSTANTLY about how women allegedly prefer assholes to Nice Guys™ are getting their panties in a wad over women who refuse to date assholes. But wait, Nice Guys™ are manginas and beta males, and women should not date them! They should date assholes like me! No wait … 😀

  • DeplorableVI

    If you think women hate men now just wait until the medical community educates everyone that eating pussy causes throat cancer.

  • DeplorableVI

    As a strong man I feel uniquely qualified to point out that strong men don’t read articles complaining about strong men spending time with assholes. Strong men don’t beg for sexist special holidays either, only xenophobic sexists practice sexism rituals such as International Woman’s Day. What a hoax perpetrated for weak minded women who have too much time on their hands. The worse thing General Electric ever did was invent the washing machine. If strong women spent their time at the creek washing crap from her mans underpants she wouldn’t be wasting her life reading stupid articles about fictions women.

    • Tigger

      International Men’s Day, anyone? There is one, you know. It’s 19 November. This year’s theme highlights male suicide. What, as a ‘strong man’ are you going to do about it?

  • Margaret Fitzgerald

    Could you back up the Buddha quote with a citation? Thanks

  • Ashanti Peoples

    amen i love being single …cause I’m more happy guess u can say I’m a strong woman too

  • Biogenic1 Love

    STOP! Please reflect on the above name: Earth, We Are ONE!

  • Jude763

    When I was in my early thirties, after several assholes, I decided that was it! I was a single mom with no support, so not a lot of money. I wanted to give myself a gift to remind me, to never forget to love myself first. I found this really cool sterling silver ring with a 5 caret zirconia and it rocked! LOL It also worked and I did learn to love myself first and over the next few years I became so much stronger. I stayed single, not that I didn’t date, but no commitments for ten years! It was a very productive time in every aspect of my life.
    I must have forgotten a few lessons since then. Here I am, divorce #3 with the biggest asshole ever. It’s ok though, I have my ring on again, Warrior Women, are never down for long!

  • Phone Verification

    Don’t they realize that they will always be stuck to an @hole no matter how far they will try to get away from them! 😉

  • SowerOfAsh

    “Strong [lol] Women Would Rather Be Alone-”
    Say no more, your wish has been granted! Enjoy your dildos and cats.

    • Tigger

      So you imagine you can pleasure a woman better than she can please herself?
      Any guy who thinks that is SERIOUSLY deluded.
      (And I speak as one married to a strong and lovely husband – who knows what’s what.)

      • SowerOfAsh

        I made no mention about my sexual prowess. Are you dyslexic or something?

  • Alicia Mitchell

    It is about choices over freedom and well being. So select people in your circles carefully otherwise they become toxic peeps.

  • deltamind106

    This has nothing to do with women. As a man, I immediately jettison every woman who reveals herself to be a bitch and not worth my time.

  • Rajesh Hoeba

    There are more strong women behind cam than assholes…..

  • Mabel Pope

    I’m a senior and single. It’s been the best time of my life and I am by no means lonely. It may not be for everybody but I’m loving it!!

  • Linda Conlon

    i married an asshole….(temporary insanity…..and left him long ago and far away!!!!!

  • niki

    still hoping Mr. Right will show up at the front door, cause I’m really too busy and content to go out looking, done that, been there, God apparently has other plans for me and my best friend, Rowdy, arf, arf !

  • Melanie Frey

    Finding peace with yourself and enjoying solo journeys through life can be so satisfying…. I find I prefer exploring new places by myself, so I can do what I want to do and see what I want to see unencumbered

  • Dejah

    You know, no one expects a “strong man” to be alone. Strong men can do as they like, date weak women, or whomever they like. Weak women don’t necessarily go around trying to break their toys. Asshole men break strong women, it’s like a sport. Good women deserve good men, that’s the size of it, but to find one, you have to be patient and selective. Don’t settle.

  • Monica Bates

    Life is too short to spend it with anyone who doesn’t appreciate you, period. As humans we should be able to evolve without stepping on each others toes. I don’t believe we mate for life. Surround yourself with people who compliment you and help you express yourself! You get as good as you give! Peace people!!! We’re in this together!!

  • Alison Norman

    Ive had to be a strong woman through life and health, but its a load of tosh about being a strong woman.
    At the end of the day the woman calls herself strong to be unavailable and untouchable and therefore also mostly hiding behind their insecurity and bitterness.
    Yes we can strong and also independant but dont use it to hide behind when really you are breaking down and just want a curtain to usexxx

  • Polly Wilson

    Who wrote this piece? Curious if it was a man or a woman.

  • xapai

    It works both sides. If a human does not need sex than it is always better to live alone than to waste time and energy on Assholes of any gender when you can channel it to yourselves.

  • Melody Glass

    I used to identify as being a person who didn’t date because I couldn’t tell the good guys from the bad guys but I have realized that I am very adept at seeing the good guys and the bad guys and I enjoy the company of certain men but I enjoy my own company just as much or more because I like me with all my faults and edges and thinking. because I am always open to changing and new ideas and thinking and moving ever forward are a huge part of who I am. Not many feel that way not many people in general take good care of themselves, take time to be alone and really enjoy the space and time their in. It takes work to be alone and deep self discovery. With all my faults I like me still.

  • Will Springer

    Not such nice comments to each other on this article could be part of the problem.

    People say they want others to be nice to them when they arent nice themselves. It sounds like people are lonely and hurting.

    Women say they dont like men who are jerks, but reality shows they have a problem dating them in the first place which is unfortunate. They need to address this in themselves before announcing to the world her new found resolve. People are speaking from experience because they were just hurt by an abusive boyfriend who they call asshole but why was she with him in the first place? Unfortunately she chose that. Nice guys exist as do bad boys and women prefer bad boys and even go back to abusive relationships.

    Its strange that the article is written from a woman’s perspective about how she intends to be single, but what about consideration for all the guys she turned down to be with the asshole?

    When a nice guy sees a girl he treated with reapect, honesty and kindness turn him down for an asshole he is left alone and confused and may even become the asshole because he sees the girl preferred that over a nice guy. In a way the girl conditions the nice guy to become an asshole because thats what works with her. The article is written from a girl’s selfish perspective that wonders why guys are selfish? Theres a saying that girls like bad boys and nice guys finish last. The question is why.

    It would be better if women would address the question in themselves of why they gravitate toward the jerks rather than virtue single-ing to others that they dont want to, when in reality they continue to go back to the bad boys that hurt them.

  • Will Springer

    Not such nice comments to each other on this article could be part of the problem.

    People say they want others to be nice to them when they arent nice themselves. It sounds like people are lonely and hurting.

    Women say they dont like men who are jerks, but reality shows they have a problem dating them in the first place which is unfortunate. They need to address this in themselves before announcing to the world her new found resolve. People are speaking from experience because they were just hurt by an abusive boyfriend who they call asshole but why was she with him in the first place? Unfortunately she chose that. Nice guys exist as do bad boys and women prefer bad boys and even go back to abusive relationships.

    Its strange that the article is written from a woman’s perspective about how she intends to be single, but what about consideration for all the guys she turned down to be with the asshole?

    When a nice guy sees a girl he treated with reapect, honesty and kindness turn him down for an asshole he is left alone and confused and may even become the asshole because he sees the girl preferred that over a nice guy. In a way the girl conditions the nice guy to become an asshole because thats what works with her. The article is written from a girl’s selfish perspective that wonders why guys are selfish? Theres a saying that girls like bad boys and nice guys finish last. The question is why.

    It would be better if women would address the question in themselves of why they gravitate toward the jerks rather than virtue single-ing to others that they dont want to, when in reality they continue to go back to the bad boys that hurt them.

    I would love to see nice people find each other and be happy together, where guys can be nice without fear of being seen of by women as weak and rejected in favor of some carnal boyfriend who takes advantage of her, beats her, but she goes back to him.

    Its not even an issue of not knowing as the article suggests because all her friends know and the guys she rejected know the guy is a jerk. Girls being emotive and looking for excitement, unpredictability, interesting rather than good, and drama which stella found in marlon brando in “a streetcar named desire”

    • Heather Hunter

      So much truth here in your post Will. You raise a very good point that most of my gender refuse to acknowledge. Not only do most of my gender refuse to acknowledge it, but most tend to get very upset whenever it’s brought up. The painful truth is that what you say here is absolutely true. A lot of us have been or are attracted to the stereotypical bad boy. We are conditioned to it, the way a lot of the more misogynistic men were conditioned to their mentalities. From the time we are old enough to have our first crush and fantasize about our “first time” we, as in heterosexual females( women who identify as other orientations tend to not be affected by this as much) are bombarded with the stereotype of the bad boy. We get it from TV, movies, books, and magazines and it gets reinforced from our peers. The myth of the “bad boy with the heart of gold”, who can be reformed from his bad boy ways by the love of the right woman. We(as in heterosexual women) are conditioned from early adolescence to be attracted to strength, and nothing personifies strength, superficially, than the stereotypical of the bad boy. That stereotype is defined by the same sources that introduce us to the stereotype in the first place, as being lean, muscular, broad shoulders, big strong hands, confident, successful, take charge, etc.

      That stereotype is based purely on superficial qualities, rather than substance or character. So by the time we start dating we are not prepared for the harsh truth that comes from the realization that “bad boys” are called that for a reason. Often they are abusive, misogynistic, controlling, and prone to cheating. So we, in our naivete, think that if we try harder, look sexier, that we can somehow reform that bad boy and make a husband out of him. After a few years of that cirque du stupide we come to the painful realization that we cannot reform them and that they are not the type of men we should be chasing. The saddest result of this is all of the decent men we ignore, turn down, and sometimes even hurt during our quest for that “bod boy with the heart of gold”. Once we learn our lesson from that pointless quest and are able to recognize the types of men we should be spending our energy on, we find that there aren’t many nice men around who are willing to spend their energy on us anymore. This is due to the fact that, due to our years long quest of chasing bad boys looking for that nonexistent stereotype, we have been branded as not worth a nice guy’s effort. A lof of my sisters will never admit this, but most often its our actions that we get judged by. If we spent years telling nice guys to take a walk because we weren’t interested in them, only to chase the men who hurt us and won’t be faithful to us, then we have earned that branding and are guilty of it’s implication.

      Now most of gender try to say this is all myth and that it’s something guys say when they cannot get a woman, but that’s a carefully reinforced falsehood a lot of my gender say to themselves and each other so we do not have to feel like we have any responsibility in how the men in our lives have treated us. It’s true we cannot be responsible for the hurt they may cause us, but we are responsible for choosing to be with them and sometimes even stay with them after they have hurt us.

      As a woman I know how strong we can be and how empowered we can be. We are smart, fierce, independent, and we are beautiful in all our shapes and sizes. We can own our strength and our beauty, and all of our best attributes, but we must also own our faults and take responsibility for the bad choices we make. The clichés about women chasing bad boys and nice guys finishing last, became clichés the same way all clichés become clichés. Those scenarios played out so often that they became commonplace to the point of being adopted by the majority of people as being commonplace.

      It illustrates why we have to be very wary of using stereotypes to base our assessments of people, genders, or races on. If scores of women( like I was guilty of myself once upon a time) were not guilty of chasing the stereotypical bad boy while ignoring, spurning, and shunning the genuine nice guys we would not still be judged by that cliché. The same way some men, not all, have been taught to look down on and treat women as subordinate and less than equal, if not lower, we have been taught to view men as either stereotypical bad boys that we can reform, or nice guys just hiding their evil natures in order to get into our pants. The real problem with that mentality is that we both end up reinforcing each other’s negative views of us. We make those clichés true by acting in the manner they describe. Then we blame each other for the bad choices we make and neither takes responsibility for their own choices. This is a real problem in feminism these days. A lot of my more misandric sisters here in this topic’s replies, and out in the real world, have completely shifted the blame for all of their relationship or marriage failures, and bad choices on men. We as women and men both have to stand up and admit our faults, deny the stereotypes and toxicity we get taught, and see past the superficial in order to meet in the middle and find equality. That is the only way the divide between us gets healed.

      • Ashley Henney

        Oh yeah, there are a lot of us that don’t want to admit they’ve been a bad boy chaser. I don’t like admitting it, but I was guilty of it. Most women I know have been guilty of it at one time or another in their lives. The women who seem to hate men the most have almost always been guilty of it. They’re also the ones who deny it the most and call it a lie made up by men who hate women. Heather, I bet you’ll get some angry replies to this post from some of our sisters who pretend to be feminists.

        • Heather Hunter

          So true, there are a lot of us, especially women who claim to be feminists, who cannot or will not ever admit to that truth. Some will deny it with such fervent anger, that even the suggestion of it, or that they might be guilty of it, is enough to send them into a tirade. Those who deny it the most are, very often, more guilty of it than others. I don’t care if I get any angry replies to my post here, or any of my others. The truth is often tough for some to hear or in this case read, but it needed to be said just the same. And it needed to be said by a woman.

          • Jim Mason

            LOL I heard that, it was definitely the sound of a microphone dropping.

    • Janie Manasco

      You have spoke the truth. We too often do not choose for the right reason—especially when we are young. And sometimes we didn’t see it coming. Glad I am past all of that and I am very strong; alone. But wouldn’t trade the experiences.

  • James Villanueva

    As long as they are not confusing “bitchy” with “strong” then we’re fine. It is when “bitchy” gets confused with “strong” that the problems start. And no, “bitchy” doesn’t make anyone strong just like “being a dick” doesn’t make a guy strong. It just makes him a dick.

  • Lolana

    The three strikes rule works pretty well for me, not just with men but with friends.

  • pythonthriller

    Read “You’re 40’s Not Married So What! by Carina Nolan available on Amazon books
    I found it very inspiring and earthy

  • Joyce Nina Auteri

    My grandma, born in 1906, would say this to me in Italian often:

    Meglio essere soli a stare con qualcuno che non ti piace.

    I’ve lived by that message most of my adult life. She was a strong woman and so am I. And I agree with the guys who say that it works both ways. Absolutely!! But the first task is to like then LOVE yourself of course.

    As for compromise, in response to a man I dated about a year ago saying to me (somewhat sarcastically, (after I was being obstinate), “There is something called ‘compromise'” my response to him was, “But I don’t want to compromise.”

    That is true. I simply do not want to give in to what someone else wants. I want what I want. Yes, call it selfish. That’s fine with me. I’m forced to compromise at work and in my day to day life with friends and family and even strangers, just to keep all those parts of my life peaceful. But choose to be with someone and compromise my ideals? Uh, NO.

    But I know better than to put a limit on things, too. “Never say never” is also a philosophy I embody. Perhaps I just need to really fall in love with someone (and he with me) and I haven’t yet met that person. So, we’ll see. For now, no compromises. I date and as soon as a couple red flags wave at me, gone. Again, it should work both ways.

  • http://www.howtowoohoo.net/ Cassandra O. James

    I have tried to love, I have been in love with love. I don’t know when it happened but one day I just realized that I felt whole, I don’t get ‘lonely’ like I used to. I am receptive but not hungry. So much of what I have felt about love was fashioned by the media and while it still exists withIN I do not see it anywhere withOUT. Right now, I am just focused on getting myself together so I can nurture some babies, that is really what it is all about.

  • Diane Smith

    I am 62. I would not tolerate any shit at this point in my life. I would absolutely rather be single than tolerate bullshit. I have dropped friends because they were life sucking vampires. The time that I have left is for me.

  • Craig R. Powers

    How does this not apply equally both ways? Plenty of asshole women out there- ask me how I know. I don’t settle and am perfectly happy on my own. When I find her (again) I will know.

  • beckyblanton

    There IS an alternative to compromise – where both (all) parties get what they want. See http://www.assumelove.com for more info. Not my website but Patti Newbold has an incredible approach that eliminates compromise and empowers Both men and women.

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