History & Exopolitics

Victory! Los Angeles Permanently Bans The Sale of Non-Rescue Cats, Dogs, And Rabbits

  • Eric Andrist

    This is ridiculous. So instead, people will just go outside of LA to get them. A lot of people aren’t comfortable taking the risk associated with getting a rescue animal; you don’t know what kind of temperament they’re going to have, what their lineage is for problems like hip dysplasia, etc. While it’s true you can never know what you’ll encounter with any dog, it’s easier to judge based on the quality of the breeder you get the dog from and the dog’s lineage.

    You make it sound like all breeders are bad and that’s simply not the case. People aren’t going to stop going to breeders just because they can’t go to one from inside L.A. I’ve gotten three dogs from breeders and none of them were from inside L.A. I also have 2 rescues.

    • Brittany Sabryne

      read the line immediately above the bottom picture…….

      • Eric Andrist

        The two lines contradict each other;

        “This decision is meant to prevent backyard breeders and puppy mills from staying in business …”

        “Individuals may continue to buy animals from breeders.”

        • Brittany Sabryne

          Not quite. There is a distinction between puppy mills, backyard breeders, and reputable breeders although to be quite honest I am not great at articulating it but heres what I’ve got. I think the point of the legislation is to limit backyard breeders and puppy mills.

          Typically Reputable breeders are much more expensive but handle a lot of the medical needs, care about genetics, have a clean home, etc. The point for them is to produce a “quality” dog. (In my opinion as long as a dog is in a stable home and is socialized well, purebreds or mutts can both be quality dogs)

          The backyard breeders is like that one time your friend had that really cute dog and just HAD to breed it or make money off it. The puppy mills use the mother dogs repeatedly with no recovery between litters until she dies, and are notorious for unsanitary/cruel conditions. Google it, but not google images bc its very sad!

          I support this legislation bc i think backyard breeders and puppy mills are repulsive. I have a rescue. He was born in a park in SF to a homeless man’s lab mix. We think he’s lab/pitt/german but who knows? He is now a service dog and is great with children. He could have been put down due to overcrowding. If you MUST have your purebred weimeraner or rhodesian ridgeback or whatever, (sp?) fine, but there are plenty of amazing animals – purebred or not, in shelters who were just in bad situations and need companions.

          • Eric Andrist

            It’s ridiculous to lump all backyard breeders into one group: bad. There are plenty of backyard breeders that are top quality.

          • Brittany Sabryne

            You’re right. Not all are bad. I bought a Shih-tzu from one eight years ago. Shes healthy. Has some social issues but i assume that more our fault than the breeder because we worked all the time and didn’t know any better.

            Few will always ruin it for most. Its like for Pitbulls. They’re mostly sweet, loving nanny dogs but a few poorly raised or inbred dogs ruined the reputation. Last comment: I recently went rescue and I’m never going back.

    • Ron

      Article title is so bad. The legislation prohibits retail sellers (pet stores) from selling the animals. So basically greatly reduces the wholesaler pet breeders from having a market to sell directly too. That was the target, they did a three year test and found the pet stores did even better, they made their sales through product and built goodwill by hosting pet adoption agencies. Even if there is not a legal restriction, a lot of the big corporate pet stores are doing this anyway. Turned out to be a good business model for them.

      And like Eric mentioned, if you want pure bred, meet the breeders. The wholesalers this affected most likely would never want you to meet or be on their property. This didn’t ban any backyard breeder. It does help make it so the breeder is going to directly need to deal with the buyer.

      The color text links to support articles, worth the read. This article is very minimal and again, horrible title writing.

      • Jackie Phillips

        If you want purebred, go to purebred rescue or to all breed rescues. Adopt, don’t shop!

        • Ron

          Great alternative Jackie! And I hope pet stores also invite those rescues in for adoption days too! My experience with breed rescues are that the vast majority of the dogs are adult dogs. There are times when folk want to start the family pet with puppy. So check to adopt and if no match then I could see shopping as an alternative.

          I also have several friends into dog showing. They love their hobby and are dedicated to their breed and ethical breeding standards within the breed. They actually do good and have a lot of pleasure with it. These are the folk we also don’t want to injure with policies.

          • Jackie Phillips

            “And I hope pet stores also invite those rescues in for adoption days too!”
            Ron, that is what is already happening and has been happening for years and years. That is the model of PetSmart. The only dogs and cats in the stores are from rescues and shelters. It isn’t a new concept.
            “My experience with breed rescues are that the vast majority of the dogs are adult dogs. There are times when folk want to start the family pet with puppy. So check to adopt and if no match then I could see shopping as an alternative.”
            Rescues of all types can get in dogs of all types. Purebreds aren’t strictly for purebred rescues. All breed rescues can get in Purebreds also. I adopted a three month old Rottweiler puppy from an all breed rescue just this past March, and her temperament is perfect, despite her precarious beginnings. They posted on their Facebook page and I saw the post. Aren’t you aware of the website Petfinder (www.petfinder.org)? Anyone can search for any breed or mix or age or size or color anywhere in the US. Both rescues and shelters are overflowing with puppies, so if someone wants a puppy, then can find it.
            “I also have several friends into dog showing. They love their hobby and are dedicated to their breed and ethical breeding standards within the breed. They actually do good and have a lot of pleasure with it. These are the folk we also don’t want to injure with policies.”
            I have shown dogs in a wide variety of venues and sport and activities in the last 30 years, and all my dogs, both Mixed Breeds and Purebreds, have been adopted from rescues and shelters. They have a combined 110 titles accumulated. So, it is an obsolete idea that if someone wants to participate in dog sports that their only option is to purchase from a breeder. Heck, even many organizations offer altered Conformation, and AKC is considering it.
            I don’t fall for the breeder sales pitches that temperament and health are guaranteed and that only healthy dogs with good temperaments come from breeders. Except for my new puppy, all my dogs have passed the national American Temperament Test Society test, which is more than many people can say. They also can be walked down any urban street and greet everyone. One of the Dachshunds participates in pet therapy at a local Masonic home.

          • Ron

            How neat Jackie, especially the pet therapy!

          • Ron

            Hi Jackie! Though of you when I saw this buried deep in a friend’s Facebook post. Took a few steps but found it is credited to American Temperament Test Society, Inc. Note #3 compared to a lot of the pure breds. 🙂

  • al smith

    The best way to keep dogs out of shelters is to buy one from a breeder. LA is a cesspool of animal rights zealots that have convinced legislators that street dogs from Mexico are better than a well bred pet..one that comes with a guarantee or that a “meat dog” is a better pet than a well bred dog.. every imported “meat dog” kills an American shelter dog.. and yet the HSUS brought in over 250 of them last year and plans for more this year .. this is a wrong thinking law that will doom many pet to death. But as longs the cash keeping coming in from those donations and the cash keeps flowing out to those asshat legislators “meat dogs” and mexican “rescues’ will be LA’s only choice you get what you pay for

    • Jackie Phillips

      What a bunch of total garbage. That is just regurgitated breeder support groups and their propaganda. I would adopt a dog from Mexico or Asia or the US, and I have, before getting any over-priced and genetic ridden purebred from an ego-centered breeder. Breeders are crying “FOUL” because they are so used to being on their self-imposed pedestal, but no more. The educated and intelligent people see through the sales tactics of greedy breeders and choose with free will to adopt and not shop! Get used to it. The world has changed, and you are being left behind.

      • John Smith

        You tell em Jackie! We should kill all those *!$*% over priced, genetic ridden, pure bred puppies. I used to think my little puppy really loved me but now I realize she is just a tool of the man! Thanks for your amazing insight! Gas em all, right Jackie!

        • Jackie Phillips

          Geez, someone is bent out of shape about people trying to save lives. I wonder why. Oh, I bet you are a breeder and you make money off of creating lives. Do you adopt and save lives or do you create lives and make money? Uh, that is a tough one!

          • Heartdog

            Newsflash. You are still BUYING a dog when you “adopt”. My last dog’s breeder? Contrary to making a lot of money, she actually made a difference in the world with her breeding. One was a Cadaver SAR dog, another was a SAR dog that worked the Pentagon during 9-11. Mine was a Service dog. So I’m pretty thankful for her creating those lives. And it didn’t kill a shelter dog, as that’s not what I was looking for.

      • Heartdog

        You support importing dogs from third world countries, over a well bred one? Why doesn’t anyone think these things through? If there were NO one breeding, there would cease to be dogs in a short time. Their lives are not long. So a bred dog..which all dogs are incidentally…is “genetic ridden” whatever that means, but a questionable breeding is not? Seems to me it’s not the intelligent ones that think of all breeders as greedy. That’s a gross generalization. People who love their breed are not in it for money. There are breeders who produce working dogs, who save lives, and do amazing things. These are greedy?? These are bad? And no, not any questionable bred dog can be a K9, or a MWD, or do other work like that. It’s a specific genetic ridden dog lol. These are indeed looked at as living, feeling beings.

    • Lisa Wild

      whatever! There are thousands of dogs being brought into the world and into the population of unwanted pets and breeders just keep doing it and don’t care that their “product” are being euthanized or dying of all kinds of horrible causes on the streets or at the hands of psychos! As long as they make their money! They don’t look at the animals as living, feeling beings! Breeders make me sick! And we, the rescuers fill our days with picking up animals, networking animals, begging for fosters, begging for donations, trying to find good homes instead of the crappy ones who abandoned them after the newness wore off!

    • Trust us

      If you haven’t been doing animal rescue for many years you have NO idea what you’re talking about. Or maybe you’re a breeder who makes money off the poor animals.

  • kitty

    I noticed there were no statistics on how many fewer dogs were killed at the shelters. Just seems another program that can have nasty unintended side effects.

    • Jackie Phillips

      Like what? Saving lives? Is that nasty to you?

  • Charlotte Collins

    Why are the comments below so negative ? This is an amazing initiative .Every day hundreds of perfectly good dogs and cats are euthanised due to no fault of their own but due to irresponsible breeding .What needs to happen is a law making it illegal to own a dog or cat that isn’t sterilised unless you are a registered breeder and then you are only allowed to breed once every 5 years .Even getting a dog from a breeder doesn’t guarantee a dog free from problems,my mother bred dogs ,i know ! .They are so inter bred ,saying that a breeder dog is the only way to go is so naive.I volunteer every weekend at a shelter ,it is heartbreaking to see the most amazing ,loving ,clever ,beautiful dogs being passed over for dogs from a breeder .The last 5 dogs i have had over the years have all been adopted and i would NEVER go back to a breeder ! Due to irresponsible breeding you don’t just get mix breed dogs in shelters ,if you are not prepared to get a mix breed dogs most dog breeds have a rescue society specific to that breed with dogs being dumped due to things are trivial as it not suiting the owner any more or boredom !! If everyone did their bit and considered saving a life of an animal at a shelter ,it would go a long way in helping this problem caused by nothing other than human negligence and arrogence.

    • Jackie Phillips

      Adopt, don’t shop!

    • Heartdog

      Oh! Your mother bred dogs, so that proves it! The reason that it gives some folks pause is that it’s just a notch in the belt of Animal Rights nuts, who have the ultimate goal of NO pets period, ever. So who’s going to argue against puppy mills, and backyard breeders? I certainly don’t like that. But legislation doesn’t solve a problem like this for one, and it’s a slippery slope. Look at how many of you believe that ALL breeders are evil! It’s extremism. Sorry. Dogs are given up for many reasons, it’s far more complex than just they are brought into the world. If there weren’t enough homes, then why so many rescues importing from other countries?? People get a dog, and don’t bother to learn how to relate to them, and teach them, so they have a nice companion. They lack commitment. It’s a cultural problem. There’s countries in Europe that don’t have this problem. And most of their dogs are intact, too!
      Kudos for getting dogs that were given up on. But it’s not wrong for someone to choose otherwise. I didn’t get the dogs I have on a whim, and I knew what I wanted, researched, and I train and compete. I think a lot of rescue folks forget there are working dogs, and they aren’t familiar with that world. We have the kind of dogs that pet people couldn’t deal with. They have a specific purpose, not just ooh I like the way those dogs look, I want one! I’ve had huge challenges, but I would never give up on my dog. I can show people that you can get thru it with a dog that is challenging and isn’t exactly easy.
      There is nothing wrong with good breeders. They care about their breed, and most also rescue, and ensure none end up in wrong hands. If everyone did that, we would have far less of a problem. But we are an instant gratification society. So many just want a breed for how cute it is, with no idea what they’re doing. THAT is what should be combatted.

  • Jackie Phillips

    Great job, Los Angeles! Join all the other smart and educated city leaders who have already made the choice and choose to save lives and not allow commercial breeders to sell puppies. Would love to see the day that all mass commercial breeders and puppy mills are put out of business. Adopt, don’t shop!

  • AverageJoeMN

    When liberals can’t win by persuasion they turn to banning it so no one can do what they don’t like.